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Friends in Madisonville fire

Posted on 8/12/13 at 7:22 am
Posted by TBass82
Folsom
Member since Feb 2004
2709 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 7:22 am
Apparently it was supposed to be demolished today

Friends Restaurant
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 7:26 am to
Nope, not suspicious at all.
Posted by bossflossjr
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
12262 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 7:28 am to
Lighthouse
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50110 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 7:30 am to
Got lit up?
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37321 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 7:45 am to
Definitely an inside job, IMO.
Posted by TBass82
Folsom
Member since Feb 2004
2709 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 7:49 am to
I heard, but have no confirmation, that there wasn't even power there. Apparently there was a party there last night that was powered by a generator. I agree that it looks suspicious.
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
10940 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 7:50 am to
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Nope, not suspicious at all.
Assclowns
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 8:34 am to
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Assclowns




You are the epitome of brilliance in your own mind. If no other savings were involved or insurance fraud issues, the owners saved demolition expenses.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 8:38 am to
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If no other savings were involved or insurance fraud issues, the owners saved demolition expenses.

Are you kidding? The risk to other people's property, the need for fire department response & risk to FD personnel....if it is determined that the fire was set, send those owners a bill for wasting the fire department's time. Yes, there was a "cost" involved.
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
10940 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 8:42 am to
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You are the epitome of brilliance in your own mind. If no other savings were involved or insurance fraud issues, the owners saved demolition expenses.
You're joking right?
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9454 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 9:57 am to
The flames were easily 60'-80' high at the peak of the fire. You could still see burning embers in the smoke column probably 125'-150' (or more) high. It's a good thing is wasn't a windy night, or they might have set other homes, businesses or boats on fire. It had been burning for 20 or 30 minutes before I saw the first fire hose spraying. I dont know if there was a hydrant or water pressure problem, but it appeared that they were pumping from the river.

There was a party/gathering on the top deck yesterday. I assume the owners were having a little farewell party before the building was demolished. The fire started after 11:00pm and the roof and 2nd floor had collapsed by around 11:40-ish. There were too many fire and police units to count. I'm amazed that nearby structures and boats didn't burn. I could feel the heat from across the river.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 10:00 am to
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There was a party/gathering on the top deck yesterday. I assume the owners were having a little farewell party before the building was demolished.
Not a bad plan/story when you need to burn your place down.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9454 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 10:24 am to
Right, if one was inclined to do such a thing. But if the owner torched the place, he better be ready for some severe scrutiny. The place has been closed since Isaac. I assume the utilities were disconnected some time ago. I doubt any demolition prep work started last night. If demo was to start today, as rumored, it seems the party goers would have hauled their generator and fuel out at the end of their party.

Maybe the party was still going on after 11 and someone screwed up fueling the generator... I'm sure arson investigators from the state and Friends insurance carrier will be asking many questions.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58122 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 12:29 pm to
Yeah, I can't figure this one out.

If my memory is correct, the guys who bought the place were going to build a seriously big new restaurant. Money does not seem to be an issue for them. I appologize in advance if I have it confused with another restaurant in that area.

If the restaurant was to be torn down, would they really even get any insurance money out a fire?
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9454 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 1:00 pm to
I live in Madisonville and you hear things on the river and around town, but I've always taken it with a grain of salt. All of the "info" I've heard was well past 2nd hand.

The structure flooded about 42" deep during Isaac, based on personal observation, by looking at an interior waterline through a window. Right after the storm, I heard that the owner's had 12 months of business interruption insurance and that they were in no particular hurry to renovate and reopen. I also heard that they were trying to build a new restaurant w/ a couple condos/townhouses on top, but had problems with height restrictions. I believe a revised restaurant only plan had been approved. Allegedly, demolition was to begin today.

There was a gathering of people on the top deck yesterday afternoon. I assume it was a farewell/good riddance party.

I don't know if the property has changed ownership in the last year. I do know that the new structure was to be larger - higher, if not necessarily a larger footprint.

In my opinion, it would be phenomenally stupid for the owners to get involved in arson and insurance fraud, but who knows? If I had to guess, it was kids screwing around or a improperly disposed cigarette. If some kind of accelerant was used, those dogs will find it. The place is still smoldering, but there were several vehicles labeled arson or fire investigation parked at yhe site when I went by this morning.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58122 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:22 pm to
I just read the main owner's post on nola.com in response to the article and he stated that they had no insurance other than liability and had nothing to gain from this fire. His statement seemed sincere.
This post was edited on 8/12/13 at 2:31 pm
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