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Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:44 am to
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:44 am to
Try it. It's terrific.
Posted by pongze
IE, SoCal
Member since Nov 2007
1713 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 2:49 pm to
I didn't know we had other serious bakers here! I find 2% salt to be ideal for straight doughs. 3.2% for me would be a little salty. I like working at 75% hydration, maybe because I started baking with Chad Robertson's Tartine country loaf.

My pizza dough recipe would be considered Neapolitan (no extras like oil):
75% water
2% oil
1 - 2% yeast depending on how long I am planning to ferment.

I typically use 250 grams high protein flour for a pizza for my wife and me.

Regarding the baking steel, I have a 3/8 inch thick one. Probably overkill. 1/4 inch should be fine. The thicker ones will hold heat longer, but if you are only doing one pizza, there's no need for a thicker steel.

Question for you guys: Has anyone used diastatic malt powder or amylase in your doughs? I've bought some but haven't used them yet. Also, what methods of producing steam have you tried/recommend?
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

Has anyone used diastatic malt powder or amylase in your doughs? I've bought some but haven't used them yet. Also, what methods of producing steam have you tried/recommend?


RE: diastatic malt, I've used the powdered stuff a few times when specific recipes/formulae called for it. But it is easy to overdo & will give an unpleasant texture.

RE: steaming--I'm a covered-vessel fan, for those Tartine/rustic sourdough high-hydration loaves. A lidded dutch oven, cloche, etc saves me the trouble of trying to generate steam inside my large vented gas oven. I usually want steam only for rustic country bread or baguettes...my "usual" baking of (part whole wheat) challah, milk-enriched sandwich loaves, or focaccia/ciabatta all work just fine without messing with steam.

I've tried practically everything--a soaked towel on a rimmed sheet pan (bad idea--my towel actually started smoldering mid-bake), ice cubes tossed into a preheated cast iron skillet (okay, but didn't generate a whole bunch of steam), boiling water added to preheated CI skillet (works great, but dangerous as hell in a low oven beneath a stovetop) and a great way to get a steam-burn facial), hand sprayer (too hard to get enough water into the oven), and pump-style garden sprayer (best method, but a PITA to keep & store a separate pump sprayer just for this purpose).
Posted by BatonRougeBuckeye
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2013
1785 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:13 pm to
I have used stone for many years without issue but Im always looking for something new or a way to do it better. For those of you who have used stone and steel what would you say are the advantages of steel?
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:32 pm to
Steel transfers heat very quickly into whatever is being cooked on it, so it's great for pizza or anything with a relatively short cook time when significant bottom browning is desired. It's less desirable for a longer cook, as bottoms may overbrown before the interiors are fully cooked. But try it and see, esp if you like a dark final product (aka a "bold" or euro bake).
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