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re: Five of the Most Overpriced Foods on Restaurant Menus
Posted on 5/12/15 at 11:30 am to dallastiger55
Posted on 5/12/15 at 11:30 am to dallastiger55
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2 things i will never pay a lot for- mexican and italian food
its so dirt cheap to make, especially italian
This is why they have a stranglehold on the US restaurant landscape.
Mexican is the new Italian.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 11:33 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
Restaurants make a shite load of money off of soft drinks.
Also fried fish.
Also fried fish.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 11:49 am to Midget Death Squad
Not only the health benefits but imagine eating out 3-4 times a week and saving $12-15 on drinks per meal
Also my kids split a kids plate.
Also my kids split a kids plate.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:09 pm to dallastiger55
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2 things i will never pay a lot for- mexican and italian food its so dirt cheap to make
Generally I agree about the Mexican food, but quality Mexican restaurants using good ingrediates to exist and can reasonably be expected to be "expensive".
Not all places are the grease and cheese dumps like 90% of the ones found in this state.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:24 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
If i remember right- steak is near worst in terms of profit margain
Posted on 5/12/15 at 1:47 pm to LouisianaLady
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Barcadia charges $10 for like 25 fried pickle spheres.
How do they manage that? It sounds labor intensive carving the pickles into round balls and frying them.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 1:51 pm to ruzil
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How do they manage that? It sounds labor intensive carving the pickles into round balls and frying them.
Pickle medallions?
Posted on 5/12/15 at 1:53 pm to ksayetiger
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If i remember right- steak is near worst in terms of profit margain
That's probably correct on the individual item, however they can save money by hiring jacklegs in the kitchen.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 1:57 pm to LouisianaLady
quote:I know those are handmade/breaded and they are huge.
Chimes charges $9.50 for cheese sticks
Posted on 5/12/15 at 2:06 pm to Commandeaux
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Wheres alcohol? The mark up on that is ridiculous.
Not necessarily across the board. There is a negative correlation between prices/margins in restaurants on most bottles.
Restaurants make money on booze sells not necessarily because of high margins(even though some are really high), but because they already have your butt in the door and they're making $3-$5 per drink rather than a super high margin item like coke where they're only making $1.25.
quote:20% is great. 35% is usually the high mark.
Isn't this percentage the norm for food costs for restaurants?
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Pizza
Restaurant food cost: Between 20% and 32%
"Gourmet" pizza can easily sit around 10% if you aren't importing your water from Italy.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 5/12/15 at 2:20 pm to LSUAfro
The trend is the high end gourmet pizzas. They are always packed and on an hour wait and they charge $15-18 per pizza plus $2 per topping
It's gotta cost them no more than $3 to make one
It's gotta cost them no more than $3 to make one
Posted on 5/12/15 at 2:42 pm to dallastiger55
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The trend is the high end gourmet pizzas. They are always packed and on an hour wait and they charge $15-18 per pizza plus $2 per topping
Not sure if you're alluding to a specific place, but that's not been my experience. Ah, perhaps in Dallas(just saw your handle).
You can't discount the extreme price of the ovens that many gourmet pizza places incur.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 2:50 pm to Oenophile Brah
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You can't discount the extreme price of the ovens that many gourmet pizza places incur.
Sure you can. That's irrelevant when discussing food costs which is the premise of the article.
quote:I wouldn't call most of them extreme especially considering they might be responsible for cooking >80% of your menu. Some of the extreme costs come when you import a brick oven or they are a difficult install and fit in a certain space that require renovations.
You can't discount the extreme price of the ovens that many gourmet pizza places incur.
Deck ovens can vary greatly in prices as well.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 5/12/15 at 2:51 pm to LouisianaLady
Do you even geometry????
Posted on 5/12/15 at 3:02 pm to LSUAfro
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I wouldn't call most of them extreme especially considering they might be responsible for cooking >80% of your menu. Some of the extreme costs come when you import a brick oven or they are a difficult install and fit in a certain space that require renovations.
I guess this discussion has lost it's way. The big brick ovens are exactly what I'm talking about.
So you think it's worthy of comparing food costs at a hamburger joint and a pizzeria when one has a fixed cost (kitchen equipment) that might be 10x more then the other?
The food cost argument is rendered moot at that point.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 3:10 pm to Oenophile Brah
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So you think it's worthy of comparing food costs at a hamburger joint and a pizzeria when one has a fixed cost (kitchen equipment) that might be 10x(or any amount) more then the other?
Too many variables to just say a pizzeria might have 10x more setup costs than a hamburger joint. A hamburger joint might need 20 feet of ventilation, sprinklers and hoods put in which can easily exceed the cost of a brick oven.
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The food cost argument is rendered moot at that point.
Absolutely not. Variable costs are not rendered moot because of a fixed cost.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 5/12/15 at 3:14 pm to Commandeaux
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Wheres alcohol? The mark up on that is ridiculous.
Well, let's see. A 750ml bottle has about 17 pours of 1 1/4 ozs.
Say a restaurant gets a bottle of Crown for $25.00 and they charge $8 for a shot, with no mixer. That's $136. That's .18.
A keg has about 165 pours at 12 oz. Overpours and spills considered, let's say 145.
Say a restaurant gets a Bud Light keg for $75 and they charge $3.50. That's $507. That's about .15.
Not too shabby. (Yes, I know that these are rough numbers.)
I'd be curious to see how much the margins are on salads.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 3:21 pm to BayouBlitz
quote:You forgot theft and freebies.
Overpours and spills considered
quote:If you can get 17 pours out of a bottle of crown...you're doing pretty good and I'm not drinking at your place .
A 750ml bottle has about 17 pours of 1 1/4 ozs.
quote:Dinner salads are money makers. Entree salads not so much.
I'd be curious to see how much the margins are on salads.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 5/12/15 at 3:34 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
When I worked at Outback, the Bloomin Onion was marked up incredibly high. I believe it was something like $.59 to make and they sold it for $6.49!
Posted on 5/12/15 at 3:39 pm to BayouBandit24
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Seems legit. I knew someone who owned a McDonald's franchise and said the drinks were where the real money was at.
The book "Fast Food Nation" has a blurb about this. When the super size option came out, it was about a $0.33 upcharge, yet they only added less than $0.02 worth of product. Goldmine.
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