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Posted on 8/28/12 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 5:20 pm to
I'm sorry Martini, I thought I was making a joke.

I have never eaten, tasted or even seen a cassoulet. Not knowing anything about it, I had no idea there would be controversy in having tomatoes in the dish.

Hopefully, it won't get to the tomatoes-in-jambalaya level of insanity.
This post was edited on 8/28/12 at 5:22 pm
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 5:55 pm to
Now I know you are definitely getting in touch with the inner Marie.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48836 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 6:05 pm to
Well to claim you have eaten it that much and have never had tomatos in it I find that you must be the exception rather than the rule. The cassoulet outlier if you will. I've eaten it let's say in my lifetime twenty times in restaurants in the United States, France, even Spain as well as friends homes. I've eaten it at families homes another dozen and I've cooked it say thirty, forty times in my adult life. As I said 8 of 10 of those times it had tomato. It could be duck confit, goose, pork, lamb etc...but majority had tomato.

I've eaten at two Thomas Keller restaurants Ad Hoc a month ago and The French Laundry a year or so ago. Both had tomato in the cassoulet.

I find it hard to believe if you have eaten it as many times and places you say and Nitwit has had it and cooked it across France like hes General Patton tomatos have never been introduced. If true than I would say you both haven't eaten truly French as you think perhaps you have and I would question your ability to decipher actual food and dining. In other words your credibility is suspect.

I would prefer you just say "I don't care for tomatos in my cassoulet" or "I've only had it a couple times and I don't recall tomatos being in that dish."

To not do that is an affront and an insult to the intelligence of the fine posters of this board and a discount of your posts.

Having said that, I have six dinner guests ladling large bowls of my hot lamb, chicken leg, pork sausage, tomato and yes even a couple of carrots cassoulet and serving with big hunks of fresh crispy country bread smeared with softened butter. Being poured is my other 08 Cade Cab with a nice magnum of Beau Vigne being decanted as I type.

Hope all are safe from the storm and enjoying a tomato less dinner.
Posted by aaronb023
TeamBunt CEO
Member since Feb 2005
11774 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 6:13 pm to
martini...i wish i lived at your house. you seem to always have a freezer full of awesome stuff. if i were to do a "clean the freezer" night id have a couple of otter pops, a chicken breast, and a jimmy dean sausage biscuit
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48836 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 6:14 pm to
Not a problem. If you would have linked and explained but I know better than to put tomatos in a jambalaya therefore I didn't read sixteen pages. You tell jokes like my father. He gets about two thirds of it pisses everyone off and forgets the punch line.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48836 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 6:16 pm to
I clean the freezer January 2 of every year and the last couple of years we managed to mid March, beginning of April without buying anything but perishables and dairy. Save a ton of money.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 6:40 pm to
The Nit has cooked for two Princesses, one First Lady, the Dupont family(the ones that own Dupont Chemical), the ArchBishop of Canterbury. Who the F have you cooked for diptstick?
This post was edited on 8/28/12 at 6:43 pm
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10380 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

I would prefer you just say "I don't care for tomatos in my cassoulet" or "I've only had it a couple times and I don't recall tomatos being in that dish."



I'm sure you would prefer that-however neither are true. I have no interest in sparring with you...let's just say our experiences are different and leave it at that.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48836 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 10:00 pm to
Well as I said perhaps you are the exception. Or you are the Outlier of Cassoulet. See Malcolm Gladwell. It's a compliment.

But, back in July, I was in the city for the fourth, we ate at Gallaghers after Jersey Boys, which is a great production, if you haven't hit the half price ticket window, I suggest it. Gallaghers, ok, prime dry aged meat, old school Manhattan Theater joint.

However the night after, we went to LaSirene. A recommendation from friends, a great French restaurant with tomato cassoulet. I suggest you try this and broaden your horizons.

As you can read above we obviously are no match for the Nitwit who has apparently cooked for Princess Diana and a dead Gay DuPont murderer among others.

I haven't cooked for gay wrestlers ( although it's apparent that's his preference-I'm sure corn dogs and of course cassoulet are tops on his menu-not that he's a top, because I wouldn't bet on it) but I have cooked for my dear old mother who would tell me not to brag as well as letting me know she really doesn't care for the pretend French (see-Clitwit) and beans with tomatos are like bourbon and water. A natural fit.

Sorry you have missed out on some wonderful food.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48836 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 10:18 pm to
Well Clitwit, my father always told me Brag was a good dog until he died. But you are a special person as you have let us all know.

I eat, I cook, I study and I spend money on food. It's what I like to do and I have worked my behind off since I was a 8th grader all the way through LSU during which time I started several businesses of which today all survive because I work them hard every day thirty five plus years later. I may not have cooked for the Archibishop of Canterbury or a First Lady but I can say brag on one thing. I sat across from Barbara Bush at a formal dinner and discussed a few things and maybe I ate your food.

Probably was because I remember her saying, "no tomatos in the beans?"
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50108 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 10:27 pm to
That had to be a damn good bottle or two of wine.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48836 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 10:31 pm to
I just poured the first glass of the second bottle. It's been breathing for three hours. Wind is starting to blow.
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10380 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 10:41 pm to
quote:

But, back in July, I was in the city for the fourth, we ate at Gallaghers after Jersey Boys, which is a great production, if you haven't hit the half price ticket window, I suggest it. Gallaghers, ok, prime dry aged meat, old school Manhattan Theater joint.

However the night after, we went to LaSirene. A recommendation from friends, a great French restaurant with tomato cassoulet. I suggest you try this and broaden your horizons.





quote:

re: Special Requests in NYC (Posted on 7/11/12 at 12:45 a.m. to Tiger Attorney) TA if you're up for an intimate dinner with some fantastic home cooked french food I can heartily recommend La Sirene on Broome St. while you're in Soho. It's best for dinner and it's BYOB so bring a nice bottle of wine and enjoy. Not glam but genuine, relaxed and the meals I've had there were fantastic. Walking in the door the first time I ever went there the smells I encountered made me know I would love this place.



Their cassoulet is not a dish I have had there on the many occasions I have gone there since first going in October of 2010.

You make it quite easy to discount people who have swum deeper and further than yourself.
Posted by ssand
the Rez
Member since Mar 2004
1346 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 10:58 pm to
Man, I am thoroughly enjoying this thread. And there's no doubt that I will be preparing my first cassoulet this weekend. Still undecided if tomatoes will be included though.
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10380 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 11:12 pm to


LINK

As the link says it is a divisive issue in which REASONABLE people can disagree. When I worked in the Languedoc I never experienced tomatoes in Cassoulet. It wasn't until later that I encountered a tomato puree used in it. Many variations and arguments to be had. The bulk of my experience doesn't lead me to think of tomato as a classic component. But as I said before when I tried to avoid an argument, different people with different perspectives will come to their own conclusions. Just enjoy and make it how the hell you like it.

This post was edited on 8/28/12 at 11:15 pm
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10380 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 12:05 am to
quote:

But, back in July, I was in the city for the fourth, we ate at Gallaghers after Jersey Boys, which is a great production, if you haven't hit the half price ticket window, I suggest it.



Good god... and you were speaking down to me? Hilarious. Did Gallagher's check your backpack? I should have resisted this urge but as I re-read your posts, the empty condescension and your baseless arrogance got the better of me.
This post was edited on 8/29/12 at 12:14 am
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48836 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 5:24 am to
It was across the street. The production I was referring to was the play, not the restaurant. The restaurant itself might have a half price window as well. I think the Archbishop of Canterbury was there.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50108 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 7:48 am to
My neighbor from Jordon just gave me a beautiful cookbook on Mediterranean cuisine. It holds my only cassoulet recipe which contains both tomato paste and tomatoes...go figure.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 8:03 am to
Jordan is not France the last I heard.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 8:09 am to
quote:

The Nit has cooked for two Princesses, one First Lady, the Dupont family(the ones that own Dupont Chemical), the ArchBishop of Canterbury. Who the F have you cooked for diptstick?

cit, i know that this wasn't directed at me, but i find that this is a good time to interject that i have cooked for a well known and respected family from the F and D Board,,, the Otis family..
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