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re: Buying my first smoker... need advice **UPDATED 1st smoke w/ pics

Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:21 am to
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:21 am to
I bought the 22.5 WSM, and I did my first smoke this past Fri/Sat. As recommended, I started with a pork butt (5 pounder). I used Meathead's recipe and method along with his rub. It came out great, especially for a first time. I started at 11:30 Friday night with the setup and had the meat on the grill by 11:45. I had a difficult time with temp control, and the coolest I could get it was 265. To accomplish this I closed 2 intakes completely and had the 3rd one at 10% open. I left the exit vent on top wide open. Granted I was going by the stock thermometer on the WSM, because I haven't had the chance to get the thermometer yet. I used my william sonoma meat therm that I've had for a few years now, and it has always served me well. Anyway, I played with the temps for about 2 hours before I was finally confident that this was my lowest temp and would not rise. (I set alarms to wake me every 30 mins until the temp was stable). I woke at about 8:30 am, and it was running smoothly at about 250 with meat at around 175 (to my recollection). I was unsure the reason for temp drop (needed build up in smoker? ash?), so I kicked the stand a couple of times and checked later. It was holding strong at 250. By the end of the cook it was at a steady 235, so I was happy that it was the needed buildup.

I let it go to internal temp of 203 (based on Meathead's recommendation). Ironically, I pulled the meat off at 11:45, 12 hours exactly since start time. I took this as a sign! Since my company wasn't arriving until 5, I had to wrap it in foil and place in oven at 150 to maintain. Unfortunately my perfect bark softened and it lost a little sweetness (is this normal?). Regardless, the end result was still delicious. I now can't wait to do another run and try out different techniques. Oh, I forgot to mention I did the minion method, which works great.

I also did the wicked beans that I saw suggested on these boards. I added a few unlit coals to the fire after removing meat, and I threw one each of hickory and apple wood for smoke (which is the mix I used for pork as well). These beans were killer!

Thanks for the advice and help. Do you guys have any suggestions/recommendations about any of this? Technique, rub, flavor ideas? I love the WSM and am glad I went with this. Happy smoking, fellers!

(I only have 2 pics of the meat pre pull and the thermometer. I forgot to take finished product pics since I was running around crazily)





This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 11:27 am
Posted by Kingwood Tiger
Katy, TX
Member since Jul 2005
14162 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:34 am to
Looks good...I'd try it. I've never had to cook one that long though, and the smoker is way too clean....get to smokin!
Posted by bbrou33
Big Apple, NY
Member since Oct 2011
7164 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:40 am to
Took me probably 3 or 4 smokes on my WSM before it was broken in and held temps low and steady. BTW, the temp at the grill is probably 15 or so degrees hotter than what the dome thermo says. If I remember correctly.
But the butt looks great! Wrapping in and locking in that moisture made the bark soft. It happens.

ETA: I usually use the Franklin method of cooking/rub. Always minion method as well.
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 11:42 am
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:42 am to
Did you use the minion method of starting your coals? It's the easiest way to power that thing. I leave my bottom vents open and close the top to a an opening just large enough for my probe thermometer. It gets "right" in about 30 minutes.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24502 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:43 am to
yeah I thought that seemed like a long time for only 5 pounds, especially with the temp being at 265 for much of the cooking. the end result was very juicy though, so apparently my meat therm was accuarate. I question the accuracy of the WSM one, so it may not have been as hot as it read. I'm getting the Maverick from amazon soon, and that should give me better readings.

For those who use the Maverick, where do you put your probe? By coals, water pan or cooking area? And what temp do you like to achieve based on your placement?


ETA: just saw some other responses, so here it goes...

Yes I used minion method. I loaded the entire coal chamber up and then lit half a chimney. poured those on top and spread evenly. I wonder if I used too many lit? I used Stubbs coals btw.

Interesting that the dome is actually hotter than grill. Since it took so long to finish, I was thinking the opposite. I considered the Franklin method, but I like sweetness on my pork
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 11:47 am
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4457 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:06 pm to
Place the grill probe on the grill where the meat sits. The dome thermo is a little bit cooler than what the temp is at the grate.
What did you have in the water bowl?
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted by bbrou33
Big Apple, NY
Member since Oct 2011
7164 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Place the grill probe on the grill where the meat sits. The dome thermo is a little bit cooler than what the temp is at the grate.
What did you have in the water bowl?

This
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24502 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 1:10 pm to
water bowl was just foil to catch drippings. I put nothing in it based on different write ups I read. Once it was rolling, I realized I should've used water to keep the heat low due to this being the first use of the cooker (outside of the first "seasoning" burn I did two nights prior) and it's propensity to run high. I personally like a dry bark, so I wanted to not use water.
Posted by bleedtechblue
Member since Feb 2014
202 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:04 pm to
Just make sure to get a pit viper, makes things easier to manger
Posted by Mr Mom
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2012
796 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 6:48 pm to
Grills tend to run hot when they are shiny and new. I usually rub the insides of my WSM down with some peanut oil and due a nice hot burn for at least a few hours to dirty it up and to clean out any oils and residue that may be left from manufacturing. I think you accomplished the same thing with your first cook and I bet it will run a little cooler next time. Also, half a chimney of lit coal is a lot of lit coal even for a 22.5" model. When I do the minion method, I let maybe 20 coals good and ashy and put them right in the middle and let the fire slowly spread from there.

That seems like a long time for a small butt, but it looks nice. Congrats on the first cook!
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24502 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 6:52 pm to
Yes I was afraid I had too many coals. I'll run with 20 next time to start. Thanks for the props.
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4457 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 7:02 pm to
I don't use water but use a clay saucer from Home Depot. Does the job as a heat sink and no nasty water to deal with.
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