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Breaking Down My Red Beans and Rice

Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:56 am
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:56 am
Alright so the Monday Red Beans and Rice thread got me thinking (after cleaning up the throwup from people talking about ketchup, mayonnaise and ranch in their Red Beans and Rice).

I LOVE a good Red Beans and Rice, but I can fully admit I have never been able to cook it. This needs to stop! I can get the flavors pretty on point, but my textures just never work.

How do I get to go from a watery soup into lucious, delicious mush? Do I just cook it longer and let the beans break down? Drain some liquid? Toss something in to thicken it up?

Any help is appreciated! If someone has a good full recipe I'm open to trying, mine is nothing special!

TIA !
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278321 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:06 am to
Mash some of the beans up against the side of the pot




Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31011 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:16 am to
I wrote down this recipe a few years ago and it's pretty close to being spot on for Popeyes Red Beans and Rice.


1/2 - 3/4 pounds smoked ham hock
3 14-16 ounce cans red beans
1 1/4 cups water
1/2 teaspoon onion powder
1/2 teaspoon garlic salt
1/4 teaspoon red pepper flakes
1/2 teaspoon salt or to taste
1/4 cup lard + 1 tablespoon
1/4 teaspoon fresh ground pepper

Pour 2 cans of beans in a 2 quart pan add smoked ham hock and water. Simmer on medium heat for an hour until the meat starts to loosen from the bone. Remove from heat and cool until the hock is cool enough so the meat may be removed from the bone. Place the meat, beans and liquid in a food processor. To the mixture add onion powder, garlic salt, red pepper, salt, and lard. Process for only 4 seconds. beans should be chopped and liquid thick. Now add the 3rd can of beans that have been drained of their liquid. Process just for a second or two you want these beans to remain almost whole. The secret, to me, is getting the food processor parts right.

Pour bean mixture back into to pan and cook slowly on low heat stirring often until ready to serve.

Add sliced sausage if you want. I love it how it is. Saves me sausage for gumbo.
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:37 am to
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Mash some of the beans up against the side of the pot



This is the secret. When the beans are soft but still hold their shape I scoop out two cups of the mixture and puree it with an immersion blender and then dump it back in the pot. Works every time.

If you cook the beans too long the entire pot turns to mush and you can't even recognize the beans.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:16 am to
quote:

Mash some of the beans up against the side of the pot


Been told this but I still can't ever seem to get it right.

quote:

This is the secret. When the beans are soft but still hold their shape I scoop out two cups of the mixture and puree it with an immersion blender and then dump it back in the pot. Works every time.

If you cook the beans too long the entire pot turns to mush and you can't even recognize the beans.


Hmmmm, this could be my problem. I seem to wait too late before I pull some beans out. I'll try pulling them out earlier.

So nobody adds any sort of thickening agent, it's just mushed beans? Do yal buy dry beans and soak them or does everyone use the canned beans?
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37743 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:54 am to
First you have to identify which style you prefer and stick to the techniques required to make that particular style. If you're a fan Natchitoches style stay true to the essence of the dish. Don't incorporate some New Orleans properties into your Natchitoches pot and expect good results. And the same is true for the inverse. You can't just go all willy nilly and make a pot of RBR.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50109 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:30 am to
Mr. Balls bringing the F&DB wisdom with a vengeance this morning.
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:38 am to
quote:

So nobody adds any sort of thickening agent, it's just mushed beans? Do yal buy dry beans and soak them or does everyone use the canned beans?


If you use canned beans you might as well just pop open a can of Blue Runner and heat it in the microwave. Dried beans are the way to go if you want to make the dish your own.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48838 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:43 am to
If I used a canned bean or for that matter any other dried bean beside Camellia my family would have a shite hemmorage.

I do what Lester said. No need to pull out and blend. I suspect you are cooking them too high and too fast. Bring soaked beans to a boil then reduce to a low simmer and cover, stirring frequently and let them cook. As they soften mash a few with the back of the spoon on the side of the pot and stir in. Cook awhile and mash some more until you get the creaminess you like. Lower the heat as you go.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50109 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:48 am to
What he said.
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5803 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 7:24 am to
Are you using a crockpot? Nothing wrong with that, but if so you should use less water to compensate for lack of evaporation. Or leave lid off.

In general though, crockpot or not, people use too much water to cook their beans.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13568 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 7:27 am to
Im sorry, but food processor and red beans and rice should never be used in the same sentence.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13568 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 7:30 am to
quote:

So nobody adds any sort of thickening agent, it's just mushed beans? Do yal buy dry beans and soak them or does everyone use the canned beans?


You have a pot full of legumes. They are thickening agents.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50109 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 7:32 am to
quote:

In general though, crockpot or not, people use too much water to cook their beans.
this is true.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16897 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 7:42 am to
Get one of these, learn how to use it.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27476 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 7:49 am to
use a bag of beans, soak in water overnight to allow them to expand. it'l shorten the cook time. and as someone else said, cook them at a lower temperature. i've also used the method of taking out a cup or two of beans to blend. But, I just scooped up a cup or two of beans/sausage/onions/etc. and blended that. Then let that stuff incorporate back into it.

If you end up using too much stock/water, you can also take the top off of the pot and let it steam some of the water off. but, this isn't going to help if you use way too much water.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68299 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 7:56 am to
quote:

ketchup, mayonnaise and ranch in their Red Beans and Rice). 


i will add a girl I know mixes mustard and ketchup to dip the sausage in her red beans in
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Mash some of the beans up against the side of the pot




This plus 1000.
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
9550 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:12 am to
If you want creamy beans, there needs to be some fat in the pot. Usually you get enough from the meats you put in, but if not, I've even seen restaurants putting in big spoonfuls of Crisco or lard. Popeyes certainly has a lot of fat - I've seen it pooling on top because no more can be incorporated in.

If you have enough fat in there, you don't need to mash. Makes great flavor, too.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 9:16 am
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50109 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:14 am to
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fat in the pot
smoked ham hocks FTW
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