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Anyone here cook gumbo z'herbes?
Posted on 10/16/15 at 8:50 am
Posted on 10/16/15 at 8:50 am
I have never cooked or ate this but thinking about trying it tomorrow. Most recipes I have looked at call for a medium colored roux. My plan is to make a very dark roux and a second peanut butter colored roux maybe with butter to give added body. Going to use a variety of smoked meats(ham hocks, turkey necks etc. looking for suggestions here). I am going to use half of my meats for a stock and the other half for the gumbo. I also plan on browning half of the meats and then adding half to the gumbo fresh. I also will use both smoked and fresh sausage. Not sure what greens I will use. Definitely collard and mustard greens. Not sure if I should add others. Thinking of adding some of the greens directly to the roux with the trinity and adding the rest later in the gumbo. Really trying to get a lot of layers of flavors. I really would appreciate any advice and input on this . TIA
Posted on 10/16/15 at 8:51 am to mouton
I've eaten it. Done right, it is a delicious dish. I made it once and didn't do it right. It was just a big ole pot of greens. NTTAWWT.
Supposed to use an odd number of greens. Go for seven. Okay, maybe five.
Mustard, spinach, turnip, collard, beet, carrot, kale, cabbage, swiss chard ... some choices.
Supposed to use an odd number of greens. Go for seven. Okay, maybe five.
Mustard, spinach, turnip, collard, beet, carrot, kale, cabbage, swiss chard ... some choices.
This post was edited on 10/16/15 at 8:55 am
Posted on 10/16/15 at 8:54 am to Darla Hood
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Supposed to use an odd number of greens. Go for seven.
I was thinking of doing seven types of greens and seven different types of smoked meats. Just not sure what types of greens to use.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 8:56 am to mouton
Leah Chase has a recipe out there. So does Emeril and all the usual suspects. Pickled meat and ham hocks are good additions. I edited my previous post and included some greens.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:01 am to Darla Hood
I don't think turnips are in season yet. I am a little leary of some of the greens you mentioned as I have never had them. Guess it won't hurt to try.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:02 am to mouton
I have and it's very good and freezes well. I think I posted a recipe here. Long time ago though.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:05 am to mouton
Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:13 am to mouton
quote:
Anyone here cook gumbo z'herbes?
Made one 2 years ago and it was fantastic. My wife won't eat it though, because she hates greens. I think i used this Dookie Chase recipe but modified it to my liking.
LINK
It is one of my favorite gumbos and i'll be doing it again this year. Probably for an away game.
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Ingredients
Leah Chase's Gumbo Des Herbes recipe
A savory bowl of Leah Chase's green gumbo / Lorin Gaudin
1 bunch mustard greens
1 bunch collard greens
1 bunch turnip greens
1 bunch watercress
1 bunch beet tops
1 bunch carrot tops
1 bunch spinach
1/2 head of lettuce
1/2 head of cabbage
2 medium onions (chopped)
4 cloves garlic (mashed and chopped)
Water
1 lb. smoked sausage
1 lb. smoked ham
1 lb. stew meat
1 lb. brisket
1 lb. chaurice (hot)
5 Tablespoons flour
1 teaspoon thyme leaves
1 Tablespoon salt
1 teaspoon cayenne pepper
1 teaspoon filé powder
This post was edited on 10/16/15 at 9:14 am
Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:16 am to mouton
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Not sure what greens I will use. Definitely collard and mustard greens. Not sure if I should add others.
Add others. Adds some depth. This isn't a cheap recipe, at least the one i made. But it is worth the time and effort. It was definitely the most time consuming gumbo i make.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:17 am to BugAC
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:02 am to mouton
The only version I've had was from The Gumbo Shop. It was different than most because it had red beans in it. Very tasty.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 3:27 pm to mouton
I like Kale, it holds up the best.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 5:56 pm to Fll Tiga
I researched the hell out of it a few years ago and found several recipes, but they varied widely. Some said no meat, others had plenty of meat. Some used a roux, but others were like a pot of greens with sausage added.
I messed around with the recipes and came up with this one, which uses smoked turkey wings and sausage. The wings give it good flavor, and their meat is nice too.
I've made my version a few times, and I really like it.
Gumbo Z'Herbes
1 bunch mustard greens
1 bunch collard greens
1 bunch turnip greens
1 bunch parsley
1 bag frozen spinach
1 bunch kale, chard, cabbage, watercress, beet tops, carrot tops, or other available greens. (supposed to use odd number of greens)
1 large onion finely chopped
2 stalks celery
½ bell pepper
1 bunch green onions
4 cloves garlic finely chopped
1 tsp. thyme, chopped
1 bay leaf
1 link smoked sausage
2 smoked turkey wings (tips discarded)
1 tsp. thyme leaves
salt and pepper
cayenne
hot sauce (Crystal)
file’
1. Clean fresh greens. Cover with water and boil with piece of turkey wing for 30 minutes in large stock pot. Remove greens with tongs into colander sitting on rimmed baking sheet. Chop greens fine (or use food processor) to get to size that can be eaten with a spoon.
2. Make or heat some roux in a heavy pot. Cook onions, celery, and bell pepper five or ten minutes. Add garlic, thyme, and green onions, cook another minute or so.
3. Ladle pot liquor into the roux mixture and whisk together. Add all to the stock pot, whisk together, and return greens to pot, along with spinach and rest of turkey wings. Season with bay leaf, cayenne, S&P, and Crystal or other hot sauce.
4. Simmer about an hour. Add sausage. Simmer another hour, or until greens are done to liking. Remove turkey meat from bone, and stir meat back into pot.
5. Serve over rice with file’ and hot sauce.
I messed around with the recipes and came up with this one, which uses smoked turkey wings and sausage. The wings give it good flavor, and their meat is nice too.
I've made my version a few times, and I really like it.
Gumbo Z'Herbes
1 bunch mustard greens
1 bunch collard greens
1 bunch turnip greens
1 bunch parsley
1 bag frozen spinach
1 bunch kale, chard, cabbage, watercress, beet tops, carrot tops, or other available greens. (supposed to use odd number of greens)
1 large onion finely chopped
2 stalks celery
½ bell pepper
1 bunch green onions
4 cloves garlic finely chopped
1 tsp. thyme, chopped
1 bay leaf
1 link smoked sausage
2 smoked turkey wings (tips discarded)
1 tsp. thyme leaves
salt and pepper
cayenne
hot sauce (Crystal)
file’
1. Clean fresh greens. Cover with water and boil with piece of turkey wing for 30 minutes in large stock pot. Remove greens with tongs into colander sitting on rimmed baking sheet. Chop greens fine (or use food processor) to get to size that can be eaten with a spoon.
2. Make or heat some roux in a heavy pot. Cook onions, celery, and bell pepper five or ten minutes. Add garlic, thyme, and green onions, cook another minute or so.
3. Ladle pot liquor into the roux mixture and whisk together. Add all to the stock pot, whisk together, and return greens to pot, along with spinach and rest of turkey wings. Season with bay leaf, cayenne, S&P, and Crystal or other hot sauce.
4. Simmer about an hour. Add sausage. Simmer another hour, or until greens are done to liking. Remove turkey meat from bone, and stir meat back into pot.
5. Serve over rice with file’ and hot sauce.
Posted on 10/17/15 at 2:46 am to Twenty 49
It would be great if you'd add that recioe to the recipe thread above to go into the book.
Posted on 10/17/15 at 9:15 am to Gris Gris
It's posted.
Glad I went there, so I ran across the recipe for Chicken and Andouille Meatballs in Gumbo Gravy that Stadium Rat posted.
That sounds damned good, and I have a shortage of good appetizer recipes.
Glad I went there, so I ran across the recipe for Chicken and Andouille Meatballs in Gumbo Gravy that Stadium Rat posted.
That sounds damned good, and I have a shortage of good appetizer recipes.
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