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In the event that two or more teams have the same winning percentage at the conclusion of the Regular Season, and have not played the same number of Head-to-Head games between them, the following tie-breaking system determines seed:

1 - Overall record
2 - Overall points (H2H Points League only)

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This is incredibly clear. Like you said yesterday, Vanilla should be in and OG Money should be out. 2 or more teams have the same winning percentage at the conclusion of the regular season and do not have the same head to heads. Therefore, overall points seeds the teams. It says absolutely nothing about then reverting back to head to head.

Those rules absolutely do not eliminate Vanilla Ice. If you are not going to change the playoffs, Vanilla Ice wants his money back.

CQQ going to have to rule on this or we contact ESPN.

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Link to rules saying what trade is veto able?

Or is it just a matter opinion? Meaning its arbitrary

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arbitrary: based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.

You are confused on what arbitrary means. It has nothing to do with having an opinion. America can nuke Russia because, in our opinion, they are a threat to Democracy. That doesn't make it arbitrary, it was directed at Russia for a reason, that, of course, was based on the opinion of the people launching the rocket.

The reason for the veto was that, in many other's opinion, the trade was so lopsided and lacked consideration such that it ruined. You can disagree with the reason. It wasn't arbitrary. Whatever ridiculous stretch of the imagination rules that were applied to seed the 5, 6, and 7 the way they are is completely arbitrary. There is no parallel here between arbitrary like you are fishing for.

Randomly vetoing a Damian Lilliard for for Kawhi Leonard trade while acknowledging they are equal players would be arbitrary.

I love it when people ask for their money back when they don't get their way

I think the Commish needs to get his arse in here and take control or we will need a new commish next year

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Chill out Vanilla. None of us knew the real tiebreaker. We were just searching what was standard for ESPN.

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look. I'm certainly not blaming the person who speculated yesterday or anybody in particular. But this is a money league and based on the rules, its very clear that Vanilla should be in.

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I asked the commish a couple times to go into settings and post what the tiebreaker is but commish isn't active anymore.

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Fair enough. Sounds like you had no fault in this debacle. But currently, somebody who paid money is eliminated while they should be in. That needs to be fixed or the money needs to be refunded. If its messed up and the league manager failed to clarify such that the problem was alleviated, Vanilla understands this isn't the full time job of the manager. But as I said, the money should be refunded.

In accordance with the rules, Vanilla should have roughly an expected value of $83 (1/2^3 *400 +1/2^3*150 +1/2^2*50) just by clinching the 6th seed. He did pay $50 to be alright with getting hosed out of the 6th seed if the rules posted dictate he had a 3 game path to the championship.

It is still a hose job to deny him a chance at the playoffs and simply refund his money as the $83 expected value he should now have (in accordance with rules) is considerably higher than the $50 he paid in. But at least far more ethical and easier to stomach.

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In accordance with the rules, Vanilla should have roughly an expected value of $83 (1/2^3 *400 +1/2^3*150 +1/2^2*50) just by clinching the 6th seed. He did pay $50 to be alright with getting hosed out of the 6th seed if the rules posted dictate he had a 3 game path to the championship.

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wut?

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I swept vanilla ice in the regular season. Case closed. Idgaf

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Vanilla Ice won his 1 game against James. So by the same token, case closed. If you read the rules, it clearly says in a 3 way tie with difference amount of games(a fulfilled condition), it goes to points. You have fewer points.

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wut?

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What do you not understand? Assuming a 50/50 chance of winning each game, there is a 1/4 chance for the 2 teams with a bye to win both 1st, 2nd and 3rd sand a 1/8 chance for the teams without a bye to win 1st, 2nd, and 3rd

Ah math, was slightly off. Should be 1/2^3*50 for the last one. Still $77. Well over $50.

So basically, if the playoffs was simulated randomly 1000 times, Vanilla would on average win $77. If his team is better than average, he would win more. If it was worse than average, he would win less. He is 4th in points in the league, so $77 seems about right. In any event, its definitely higher than $50.

Dude makes 102 moves and misses playoffs.