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re: TDBBL - SOTU - Referendum #1: League Structure Vote
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:40 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:40 pm to Lester Earl
Yeah, it could be fun but imo auction redraft seems more competitive year after year which is what we were going after. Having a shot at a stud each year and what not.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:52 pm to PortCityTiger24
i'm into there being X number of franchise guys you have bird rights. they're not keepers per se. and they still cost.
i just want continuity.
i just want continuity.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:52 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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i'm into there being X number of franchise guys you have bird rights. they're not keepers per se. and they still cost
But how many?
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:28 pm to PortCityTiger24
1-3? Limit it to three years?
I also don't think it's a foregone conclusion that the superstars are the one that gets franchised. It's more likely to be someone gotten at value.
I also don't think it's a foregone conclusion that the superstars are the one that gets franchised. It's more likely to be someone gotten at value.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:28 am to LSU Fan 90812
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It's more likely to be someone gotten at value.
yes. the top-level guys will be too expensive to keep (with the bonus) more often than not
now you may get a young guy on the verge who takes the step for another year, maybe 2, but if you make the "keeper bonus" high enough ($5-6) then that's an extra 10-12% of your cap in year 2 for one guy
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:26 am to SlowFlowPro
More I think about, the more an auction keeper/redraft is a great compromise and would be a fun league.
Maybe we do something similar to what Redd did with the big baseball league. A few of us get into an email chain and out rules and Constitution.
Maybe we do something similar to what Redd did with the big baseball league. A few of us get into an email chain and out rules and Constitution.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:33 am to SlowFlowPro
I could get down on this. Would really reward teams that draft well. Maxing it at 3 extensions would help with idea of a redraft every year.
So 12 team auction draft. Allowed to extend 3 players each offseason at a pre determined escalator for between 1-3 years. There are no draft picks to trade so we don't have to worry about those lopsided deals.
This has some legs to it.
So 12 team auction draft. Allowed to extend 3 players each offseason at a pre determined escalator for between 1-3 years. There are no draft picks to trade so we don't have to worry about those lopsided deals.
This has some legs to it.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:43 am to MattyV
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Maxing it at 3 extensions would help with idea of a redraft every year.
if you make the "keeper cost" big enough, this will work itself out over time. i mean if it's $5, in year 3 the bonus alone will be 15% of your cap (not even thinking about the underlying cost). this will create value in rookies and young players b/c during the annual auction, nobody will want to let an ingram go for little/no money and open the door for somebody to get him for $1 and keep him long-term
i mean your top-shelf guys, in a $100 league, will probably be in the 20s (if we make rosters big enough). after 3 years the bonus cost alone will push that player into that rage, making him expensive to keep long-term. i just think it will work itself out, and it will only apply to great picks (and not superstars). i think leaving it uncapped is a good incentive to draft well each year and allow teams to get potential young studs (if they're aggressive enough) every year
the auction format will eliminate "future" deals (like with picks). trading cap space in the next draft = illegal. that is the primary issue with "selling out" and altering the landscape of the league
the auction format will also incentivize in-season trading for bad teams, b/c young players with cheap drafting costs will have supreme value, while the super stars and their high cost will be less viable (not a long term option).
one issue is if you have to trade salary for salary. in my irl FFB league that does this, you have to trade for value. actually, you have to pay the cost of the players you acquire, too, to build the pot. i don't think we need to do that (it gets really complicated with the accounting). salary for salary will help curtail one-sided sellout deals. it won't eliminated it, b/c an expensive guy who gets hurt can skew a deal, but even then that's how real basketball works so i'm fine with that (if your superstar is seriously hurt you're fricked and this helps you get out of that and hurts the other team who has to take on the "bad contract")
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:49 am to SlowFlowPro
In the league I play in, the budget is only valid for the auction. Once it is over, the salaries of the teams do not matter. They just need to be at least below the limit before the next auction.
In that 16 man, 25 player baseball dynasty, everyone has a 260 budget. Some dudes go into the auction with like 200 bucks to spend. I've seen as small as 20 from some others.
In that 16 man, 25 player baseball dynasty, everyone has a 260 budget. Some dudes go into the auction with like 200 bucks to spend. I've seen as small as 20 from some others.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:50 am to Toula
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Maybe we do something similar to what Redd did with the big baseball league
now THIS I can fap to.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:56 am to reddman
I'd like to try and mirror it more like IRL NBA.
Say everyone has a $250 initial auction budget for the draft, but then that turns into a salary cap. Can't trade for players that put you over the $ cap (prevents someone trading a $1 value keeper contract for a $70 Steph Curry contract that will expire at the end of the year). Or more money goes into the pot if you go over the salary cap.
Makes trades more strategic, since you have to make salaries work like IRL NBA.
Have plenty of more thoughts/ideas.
Say everyone has a $250 initial auction budget for the draft, but then that turns into a salary cap. Can't trade for players that put you over the $ cap (prevents someone trading a $1 value keeper contract for a $70 Steph Curry contract that will expire at the end of the year). Or more money goes into the pot if you go over the salary cap.
Makes trades more strategic, since you have to make salaries work like IRL NBA.
Have plenty of more thoughts/ideas.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:59 am to Toula
Can make guys that are drafted in a certain dollar range (i.e. $10-$25) restricted free agents. Where the owner can offer them a contract at whatever the price increase is, but other teams can offer that player more money. Then owners has right to match and keep.
Could drive up value more quickly.
Could drive up value more quickly.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 9:23 am to MattyV
Guys let's just table this talk til next May and keep what we got for 1 more year.. Deal?
Posted on 7/20/16 at 9:47 am to Honkus
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Guys let's just table this talk til next May and keep what we got for 1 more year.. Deal?
i think that ship has sailed
Posted on 7/20/16 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
So an auction redraft with the ability to "protect" player(s) by taking a hit against the cap.
Need to determine auction amount, how many players you can protect and what the penalty is.
Need to determine auction amount, how many players you can protect and what the penalty is.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 9:52 am to PortCityTiger24
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an auction redraft with the ability to "protect" player(s) by taking a hit against the cap
Yap
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:00 am to Honkus
Im setting up a mock league on fantrax now just fricking around.
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