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Posted on 4/13/15 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 3:44 pm to
That's not surprising as they are separate categories. I never once said they reflect each other. They are not repetitive with each other, they are repetitive and overlapping to the fact that they can be combined for 1 category. It's not necessary

If saves and hold were separate categories, you would probably see a half and half split too

Doesnt mean it doesnt make sense to combine em, ya know?
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

They are not repetitive with each other, they are repetitive and overlapping to the fact that they can be combined for 1 category.


I just really dont get what you mean by overlapping.
The formulas to determine those are quite different.


I really am trying to have an open mind about this discussion, but I'm just not understanding.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 4:05 pm to
I like those numbers in a year I don't expect to compete.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 4:08 pm to
It's nothing to do with OBP vs SLG.

You have 2 categories that can be scored with 1 category, all in the name of having 6 categories. It's like we broke up a cat (OPS) that works perfectly fine just to force 6 cats


Id rather see batting average or something like that as the 6th stat and OBP/SLG become OPS.

Or 5x5 works perfectly fine.
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 4:11 pm to
I wanted something different on this board, which is why I pushed for 6x6. I did a good bit of research on the topic, and the 12 categories we use are pretty widely accepted as the ones to use. I'm all for thinking outside the box though as well.

Is the league less fun because OBP and SLG are split up? I don't feel like it is. Would it be MORE fun if OPS and AVG were a cat? I don't really think it would.
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 4:12 pm
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

I like those numbers in a year I don't expect to compete.


Any interest in that proposal I sent to ya a few weeks back now that Archie has secured a spot in the big leagues?

Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 4:17 pm to
It's not a deal breaker or anything. I'll get used to it, just seems weird to me, maybe since its new
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 4:26 pm to
Don't recall what you wanted.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 4:33 pm to
I re-sent it

Seeing if you might have changed your mind
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:03 am to
@jaysonst: Today's @MikeAndMike trivia - Adrian Gonzalez has hit 20+ HR in 8 of the last 9 seasons. Name the only 3 players who have hit 20+ in all 9!

I got em

Don't cheat
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:08 am to
Hmmmm... without cheating

Ortiz
Miggy
Pujols (I think he got 20+ even in a hurt season in Anaheim...)

Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:09 am to
I would've said Pujols but I happened to be looking at his stats the other day

Other two are correct
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:14 am to
Yeah, just went and looked... Ortiz has hit 20+ in 13 straight seasons.

Pujols had only 17 two seasons ago... I thought he had still made it to 20.


Now I'll have to think about the 3rd player. If retired players count, then probably Adam Dunn. Was thinking maybe Nelson Cruz but he hasn't played that long.
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:31 am to
Adrian Beltre had a nice run. I know he hit 19 last season, but up until that point I am sure there was some sort of streak.

Alfonso Soriano was hitting HR's for years before he retired. And I don't remember him ever being seriously injured, so he might be one not many think of. I cant remember when he retired though (2013 or 2014). If it was 2013, he wouldn't count.

Possibly Adam Dunn. I know he had some stinker seasons, but it might just be the batting average that is making me think that.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:37 am to
Cano or Holliday
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:39 am to
quote:

Alfonso Soriano was hitting HR's for years before he retired. And I don't remember him ever being seriously injured, so he might be one not many think of. I cant remember when he retired though (2013 or 2014). If it was 2013, he wouldn't count.


I was just looking at him, he had 12 seasons in a row, but didn't play nearly enough in 2014 to keep it going.

LaRoche only had one season out of the last 10 or so where he didn't hit 20.

Cano didn't hit enough in Seattle last year.

Pretty sure Holliday is the third guy.

Posted by OneMoreTime
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:40 am to
I don't think cano even hit 20 last year. Could be Holliday though.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:40 am to
Definitely not Cano.
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:44 am to
quote:

Cano or Holliday


That's a good one.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:56 am to
Albert
Miggy
Holliday

The answer is Holliday. I am positive of it. I could have sworn Pujols still hit 20+ in 2013. I guess the other guy is Papi as shown above.

Beltre had 18 last year. Cano had 14.
This post was edited on 4/14/15 at 8:59 am
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