I agree with you. I'm just trying to play a bit of devil's advocate. The 6 pt passing TD does decrease the relative value of the other positions some in these leagues.

I'm trying to think of something that you are taking for granted, and I think that it may be risk. I think that one thing maybe assuming is if all the players you draft hold up to the value that you think they have where you draft them. We all know things don't work out like this. Every year we all draft some stinkers that don't nearly live up to expectations.

Maybe something to factor into this is the variance between forcasted rankings of qb's and position players. Also the fact that you need more position players increases the chance that you miss on one who you were expecting to be a starter when you could have picked a relative sure thing at qb. (Eta: perhaps the conclusion here is that if you have a pick between a low risk rb and low risk qb, you pick the rb, but if it is a perceived higher risk end of first rb then the decision becomes a lot closer) I'm not sure about this, but relative ease of playing free agency during the season between the positions. It seems like it is easier to find a contributer during the season than qb because qb's are closer more stable going into the season (less injuries and position battles).

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Posted by drizztiger

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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:10 pm to CocoLoco

Let's not use Big Ben as an example then.

Let's use Tannehill or Romo or Eli or Rivers. Luck threw 40 TDs last year and finished with about 100 points more than any of those QBs, which is the difference most seasons between #1 and #10.

All of those QBs are 8+ rounders this season.

The difference between #1 RB and #10 RB? 160 points.
The difference between #1 WR and #10 WR? 125 points.

But the chances of me getting the #8,9,10 QB in the 9th round is significantly greater than picking the #10 RB or WR in the 9 round.

So while Luck in fact should score more points than any skill player (431 last season), pairing the #1 WR (AB 388 points) + the #10 QB (Tannehill 333 points) will outproduce Luck (431) + #10 WR (Jeffery 261) by a margin of 721 to 692.

But that's not all. You're picking Luck 1st round and WR #?? 2nd round. I am picking #1 WR first round and QB #10 in 9th round. I now have picks 2-8 open for BPA which I could use for same #WR?? but as my WR2 and you have rounds 3-9. So less points and less draft options.

This is for PPR 6pt Passing TD leagues. I know the OP and others have a different scoring system.

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Posted by drizztiger

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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:24 pm to Peazey

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I think that one thing maybe assuming is if all the players you draft hold up to the value that you think they have where you draft them. We all know things don't work out like this.

This is true and I've already talked too much on this topic,

, but when comparing examples I prefer to just use a constant projection of production. And that would be draft position.

By picking a player in the 1st round, you are assigning a projected value to him.

And btw, I have absolutely nothing against Luck or Rodgers. I'd welcome either to all of my teams with open arms. But I just question the value of using a 1st round pick on a QB.

Last year was a great year for picking up RBs on waiver wire - CJ, Forsett. But I find those years to be less common than finding a QB late in draft or on WW. Plus you have to be at top of waiver wire or spending FAAB to get one of those RBs.

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