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re: Do you think people on Welfare should be drug tested?

Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3510 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:58 pm to
No I think its a waste of money. However, it needs to be TEMPORARY unless you're elderly or disabled. 2 years is more than enough time. We have to cut the dependency off.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158754 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:58 pm to
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I'm not interested in finding yet another way to let government take my tax dollars and squander them on a half working system to test.

That shite would be pricy. And you would be surprised at how low the percentage is that smoke weed.


This...

Even in the areas they've inacted this it's largely ineffective because you have to be a complete fricking retard to fail an announced drug test.
Sounds good in theory but its toothless
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
4440 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:58 pm to
1) far too expensive
2) paying for drug test wouldn't fall under "smaller government"
Posted by BugaPainTrain7
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2014
11567 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:58 pm to
Is it cheaper than supporting countless worthless humans?
Posted by Kraut Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
4503 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:59 pm to
No, but only because I think drugs should be legal. I do think that they should be means tested. If they don't work, they should be assigned to do menial jobs to pay for their free ride.

Who cares about your kids being watched? Is that an excuse if you have community service? Nope, because the government knows that if forced, you WILL make do.

Why can't they go clean bed pans at a nursing home? Pick up trash? Pull weeds from medians? Why are welfare recipients any different than criminals? They both use force to get something they didn't work for from someone who did. So what makes the law, the law, when the law makes it legal to plunder?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57429 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:59 pm to
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You give up rights when you take a paycheck.
well I feel if you take a free paycheck from the government, you should not be allowed to vote for people in that government. Because that person will vote for whoever will give them more money for nothing.

Hence the situation we are in right now. A ton of leaches who do nothing.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22339 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:59 pm to
Yes.
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:00 pm to
That will be a resounding YES!! You're on the "gub'ment" payroll you get drug tested. It's not infringing on anyone's rights. The company I work for has random drug testing for ALL employees. That includes executive management, middle management, managers, office personnel, shop personnel, and field personnel. Random alcohol testing is done as well, albeit on a slightly lesser scale.

Point being is that NOBODY complains about it because when you signed on to work with the company you also signed a release that you will be subject to random drug and alcohol testing. You want a paycheck, you play by the rules.

With that being said, you get free money from the "gub'ment", you WILL be randomly drug tested. Period! ESPECIALLY when the tax payers are fotting the damn bill.
Posted by andrewm
Member since Aug 2016
88 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:01 pm to
Yes and deduct the cost of the test from their check.
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:02 pm to
Employers have the right to drug test their employees and their employees work for their paychecks. Welfare recipients get free money from those who work hard and pay their taxes and therefore should be tested. I also believe welfare recipients should have to work for their money. I am sure the state has work that they could be doing for those benefits.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8118 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:03 pm to
Of course they should. Never have understood why this is even debatable.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:03 pm to
No. Not because it infringes on anyone's rights. If you're getting money you shouldn't be on drugs. The issue is that the drug testing actually costs more than it saves. So it really defeats the whole purpose. Random drug testing would be smart. Just don't drug test everyone.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

2) paying for drug test wouldn't fall under "smaller government"

Well there no longer exists a party of "small government" so this point won't get any play.
Posted by MorningWood
On the coast of North Mexico
Member since May 2009
2667 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:05 pm to
I don't I think they should put them fixing the inferstructure to earn their way
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11270 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:05 pm to
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This...

Even in the areas they've inacted this it's largely ineffective because you have to be a complete fricking retard to fail an announced drug test.
Sounds good in theory but its toothless


It's expensive and has failed MISERABLY

There are states that had literally a single failure in the entire program.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24886 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:06 pm to
I think Weed should be legal so, no. frick drug tests
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260171 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:06 pm to
No. In places it has been done, it's been a failure. It's costing you more money.
Posted by cito
BR
Member since Nov 2015
805 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:14 pm to
quote:

All folks on any sort of government assistance:

Student loans/aid/grants

AFDC

SNAP

WIC

SSI

Section 8

Any of it - should expect to pee in a cup on 1 day's notice, 2 or 3 times a year at random.


What about Fema? Sba?
Posted by BadAgg7
Member since Aug 2015
1717 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:15 pm to
test those mfers to the greatest extent. also cap how much money they get for children. after two kids you get no more money or food stamps.

if you don't have a job and don't have a pliable trade, you get to work at mcdonalds if there's an opening. mcdonalds can really cater to the welfare crowd this way. helps everyone. lovin it and all that bullshite.
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
3446 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:15 pm to
Unfortunately this wont work anymore. They will just switch to legal pills which would also be free and cost double. I agree with the - welfare=no vote.
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