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re: Do you think people on Welfare should be drug tested?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:58 pm to BugaPainTrain7
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:58 pm to BugaPainTrain7
No I think its a waste of money. However, it needs to be TEMPORARY unless you're elderly or disabled. 2 years is more than enough time. We have to cut the dependency off.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:58 pm to m2pro
quote:
I'm not interested in finding yet another way to let government take my tax dollars and squander them on a half working system to test.
That shite would be pricy. And you would be surprised at how low the percentage is that smoke weed.
This...
Even in the areas they've inacted this it's largely ineffective because you have to be a complete fricking retard to fail an announced drug test.
Sounds good in theory but its toothless
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:58 pm to BugaPainTrain7
1) far too expensive
2) paying for drug test wouldn't fall under "smaller government"
2) paying for drug test wouldn't fall under "smaller government"
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:58 pm to parrothead
Is it cheaper than supporting countless worthless humans?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:59 pm to BugaPainTrain7
No, but only because I think drugs should be legal. I do think that they should be means tested. If they don't work, they should be assigned to do menial jobs to pay for their free ride.
Who cares about your kids being watched? Is that an excuse if you have community service? Nope, because the government knows that if forced, you WILL make do.
Why can't they go clean bed pans at a nursing home? Pick up trash? Pull weeds from medians? Why are welfare recipients any different than criminals? They both use force to get something they didn't work for from someone who did. So what makes the law, the law, when the law makes it legal to plunder?
Who cares about your kids being watched? Is that an excuse if you have community service? Nope, because the government knows that if forced, you WILL make do.
Why can't they go clean bed pans at a nursing home? Pick up trash? Pull weeds from medians? Why are welfare recipients any different than criminals? They both use force to get something they didn't work for from someone who did. So what makes the law, the law, when the law makes it legal to plunder?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:59 pm to jimjackandjose
quote:well I feel if you take a free paycheck from the government, you should not be allowed to vote for people in that government. Because that person will vote for whoever will give them more money for nothing.
You give up rights when you take a paycheck.
Hence the situation we are in right now. A ton of leaches who do nothing.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:00 pm to BugaPainTrain7
That will be a resounding YES!! You're on the "gub'ment" payroll you get drug tested. It's not infringing on anyone's rights. The company I work for has random drug testing for ALL employees. That includes executive management, middle management, managers, office personnel, shop personnel, and field personnel. Random alcohol testing is done as well, albeit on a slightly lesser scale.
Point being is that NOBODY complains about it because when you signed on to work with the company you also signed a release that you will be subject to random drug and alcohol testing. You want a paycheck, you play by the rules.
With that being said, you get free money from the "gub'ment", you WILL be randomly drug tested. Period! ESPECIALLY when the tax payers are fotting the damn bill.
Point being is that NOBODY complains about it because when you signed on to work with the company you also signed a release that you will be subject to random drug and alcohol testing. You want a paycheck, you play by the rules.
With that being said, you get free money from the "gub'ment", you WILL be randomly drug tested. Period! ESPECIALLY when the tax payers are fotting the damn bill.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:01 pm to AU86
Yes and deduct the cost of the test from their check.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:02 pm to BugaPainTrain7
Employers have the right to drug test their employees and their employees work for their paychecks. Welfare recipients get free money from those who work hard and pay their taxes and therefore should be tested. I also believe welfare recipients should have to work for their money. I am sure the state has work that they could be doing for those benefits.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:03 pm to BugaPainTrain7
Of course they should. Never have understood why this is even debatable.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:03 pm to BugaPainTrain7
No. Not because it infringes on anyone's rights. If you're getting money you shouldn't be on drugs. The issue is that the drug testing actually costs more than it saves. So it really defeats the whole purpose. Random drug testing would be smart. Just don't drug test everyone.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:04 pm to parrothead
quote:
2) paying for drug test wouldn't fall under "smaller government"
Well there no longer exists a party of "small government" so this point won't get any play.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:05 pm to BugaPainTrain7
I don't I think they should put them fixing the inferstructure to earn their way
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:05 pm to BilJ
quote:
This...
Even in the areas they've inacted this it's largely ineffective because you have to be a complete fricking retard to fail an announced drug test.
Sounds good in theory but its toothless
It's expensive and has failed MISERABLY
There are states that had literally a single failure in the entire program.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:06 pm to BugaPainTrain7
I think Weed should be legal so, no. frick drug tests
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:06 pm to BugaPainTrain7
No. In places it has been done, it's been a failure. It's costing you more money.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:14 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
All folks on any sort of government assistance:
Student loans/aid/grants
AFDC
SNAP
WIC
SSI
Section 8
Any of it - should expect to pee in a cup on 1 day's notice, 2 or 3 times a year at random.
What about Fema? Sba?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:15 pm to BugaPainTrain7
test those mfers to the greatest extent. also cap how much money they get for children. after two kids you get no more money or food stamps.
if you don't have a job and don't have a pliable trade, you get to work at mcdonalds if there's an opening. mcdonalds can really cater to the welfare crowd this way. helps everyone. lovin it and all that bullshite.
if you don't have a job and don't have a pliable trade, you get to work at mcdonalds if there's an opening. mcdonalds can really cater to the welfare crowd this way. helps everyone. lovin it and all that bullshite.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:15 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Unfortunately this wont work anymore. They will just switch to legal pills which would also be free and cost double. I agree with the - welfare=no vote.
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