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re: House of Representatives votes 232-184 to do away with Broadband Privacy
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:40 pm to Bench McElroy
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:40 pm to Bench McElroy
let freedom ring!
disgusting
disgusting
1
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:41 pm to Bench McElroy
Russians can hack more then?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:45 pm to Bench McElroy
Privacy? 
Okay guys.
Fain your moral outrage somewhere else.
That ship has sailed long ago.
Okay guys. Fain your moral outrage somewhere else.
That ship has sailed long ago.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:50 pm to RobbBobb
quote:AFAIK neither shares your data with advertisers, as it would be pretty silly to divulge such valuable data. Instead, they use the data to target ads on behalf of advertisers. Your ISP can't profit from your data this way. They would have to inject ads into web pages for other sites (this would be very bad), or they could share/sell the data to advertisers and/or the government.
Right now Google and Facebbok sell ads based on their internal data that they share with ad buyers.
Also, we don't have to use Google or Facebook. There are alternatives, and new competitors can enter the market cheaply and quickly. Often we only have one or two choices of ISP, and new competitors must make huge investments, if the local laws even allow it.
Also, Google and Facebook only know what you do when you use their services. Your ISP knows everywhere you go, unless you are savvy enough to avoid it. But it seems inevitable that the Repubs will allow them to block us from doing that, too.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:51 pm to rocket31
actually since trump considers himself an outsider, he should veto this
i think it would be a brilliant move and itd go a long way to win over a lot of ppl
no one in their right mind would support such a pathetic rule
i think it would be a brilliant move and itd go a long way to win over a lot of ppl
no one in their right mind would support such a pathetic rule
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:51 pm to seawolf06
quote:Have any of you considered what endgame free market capitalism will look like?
We need more of this. Free market will prevail either way.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:57 pm to Korkstand
quote:Depends on which market. Obviously where natural monopolies or public goods exist, the free market isn't completely ideal.
Have any of you considered what endgame free market capitalism will look like?
We shouldn't think of it has "free market or anti-free market", we should consider the market for every good (or broad category of good) separately, and analyze whether the market is the most ideal way to move forward.
For most goods, the free market works better than any alternative.
For some goods and services, a free market has obvious shortcomings.
The end game of free market capitalism depends on the actual good/service involved in that market.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:57 pm to Korkstand
Disgusting, and lays at the feet of Republicans. Can the party say with a straight face they are for protecting our rights? Money in politics screws us over, always. It's amazing how screwed we can get by a handful of greedy fricks.
It's time for another Revolution. We saw he desire during the lectionaries but it doesn't seem like Trump wants to drain the whole damned thing. Rand Paul should have been our president and the US is so much worse off because he's not.
It's time for another Revolution. We saw he desire during the lectionaries but it doesn't seem like Trump wants to drain the whole damned thing. Rand Paul should have been our president and the US is so much worse off because he's not.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Hey, you're making sense.
Depends on which market. Obviously where natural monopolies or public goods exist, the free market isn't completely ideal.
quote:Uh huh.
We shouldn't think of it has "free market or anti-free market", we should consider the market for every good (or broad category of good) separately, and analyze whether the market is the most ideal way to move forward.
quote:Yep
For most goods, the free market works better than any alternative.
quote:Yep again.
For some goods and services, a free market has obvious shortcomings.
quote:So what do you think the endgame of free market capitalism looks like in the ISP market? The high cost of infrastructure, as well as the generally undesirable nature of duplicate infrastructure, it lends itself to natural monopolies, doesn't it? My only real hope here is that multiple players will get into the LEO/MEO satellite internet game. But, again, as we see with SiriusXM, monopolies are almost inevitable here, too. It just makes business sense.
The end game of free market capitalism depends on the actual good/service involved in that market.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:26 pm to Korkstand
So now my browsing history can be sold to say, insurance companies, recruiters, local police?
I better start browsing some All-American, legit sites.
I better start browsing some All-American, legit sites.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:22 am to Bench McElroy
But but Republicans don't want big government and follow the Constitution!!!! Another day Another republican lie used to help the wealthy and corporations these people are slaves to. VOTING HAS CONSEQUENCES. ENJOY.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:27 am to Big Chipper
It's a terrible bill and it prevents any FUTURE RULINGS THAT WOULD BE PUT in PLACE TO PROTECT PRIVACY. WHERE YHE frick DO YOU IDIOTS COME FROM? Slurp that corporate kawk
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 4:45 am
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:41 am to seawolf06
There is no free market in this country. There has never been one nor will there ever be one.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 6:57 am to TJGator1215
Looks like a website has already been created to crowdsource funding to purchase the internet history of the Representatives that voted for this - LINK
Given the vote totals thus far, it appears Marsha Blackburn will be the first to be exposed.
Given the vote totals thus far, it appears Marsha Blackburn will be the first to be exposed.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:03 am to Cs
Paul Ryan going strong
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:57 pm to Korkstand
quote:
Have any of you considered what endgame free market capitalism will look like?
Of course:
Less poverty
Less hunger
Less death
More freedom
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:58 pm to TJGator1215
quote:
There is no free market in this country. There has never been one nor will there ever be one.
You may have given up, but many of us will not. This is still one of the most free nations in the world, as bad as it is.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:59 pm to TJGator1215
quote:
It's a terrible bill and it prevents any FUTURE RULINGS THAT WOULD BE PUT in PLACE TO PROTECT PRIVACY. WHERE YHE frick DO YOU IDIOTS COME FROM? Slurp that corporate kawk
lolwut?
This is pretty bad even for you TJ.
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