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re: House of Representatives votes 232-184 to do away with Broadband Privacy
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Whats actually in it? I don't fall for names of things. Seeing that this was voted in under Obama, I trust the name even less.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:24 pm to Iosh
Don't you guys think there is more to this story if people like massie and Amash voted against it?
Seriously, read Jeff flakes op ed
Seriously, read Jeff flakes op ed
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:26 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Study it...it was a good thing. Takes power away from fcc that odummy overreached on and put the onus on the ftc.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:27 pm to Bench McElroy
I'm not very knowledgeable about the subject, but I think this is bad law.
Not onboard with GOP on this one and wasn't with Obamacare Lite.
Open to more facts and reserve the right to change my stance. I have severe misgivings agreeing with Dino rats when they vote 184-1.
Still proud that I haven't voted DNC since 1978!
Not onboard with GOP on this one and wasn't with Obamacare Lite.
Open to more facts and reserve the right to change my stance. I have severe misgivings agreeing with Dino rats when they vote 184-1.
Still proud that I haven't voted DNC since 1978!
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Seriously, read Jeff flakes op ed
Will as soon as I get the time.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:30 pm to Big Chipper
quote:FTC doesn't have jurisdiction over ISPs
Takes power away from fcc that odummy overreached on and put the onus on the ftc.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:34 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Read Jeff flake's op ed in the WSJ
Issue is much more complex
It is complex, so much so that you and Flake don't quite grasp it.
That op ed makes the argument that "sensitivity-based" privacy regulation is pro-consumer. How can that possibly be, given that this model requires either my ISP or the FTC to make the decision on how sensitive MY data is?
Why in the frick would you possibly want your ISP or a government agency to rustle through all of your data and decide what should and shouldn't be shared?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:34 pm to RobbBobb
It doesn't allow smaller guys to compete it allows ISPs/giant media companies to compete. Also opens up another way for governments/hackers to collect data on people. Joy.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:35 pm to Iosh
The other side of this issue:
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When you shop online from your tablet or browse the internet on your smartphones, you expect your personal data to be secure. Technology companies invest billions of dollars on data security to protect consumer privacy.
Privacy is also a cornerstone of consumer protection, with federal enforcement agencies striking an appropriate balance between innovation and security in their regulations. But just as a flawed line of code can render a new firewall program useless, the new privacy rules that were rushed through in the waning days of the Obama administration risk crashing our longstanding privacy-protection regime.
For two decades, the Federal Trade Commission has been America’s sole online privacy regulator. Under the FTC’s watch, our internet and data economy has been the envy of the world. The agency’s evidence-based approach calibrates privacy and data-security requirements to the sensitivity of information collected, used or shared online, and applies protections in a consistent and evenhanded way across business sectors. Consumer behavior demonstrates the success of the FTC’s regulatory approach: Each day people spend more time engaging in online activities.
But in 2015, in a bid to expand its own power, the Federal Communications Commission short-circuited the effectiveness of the FTC’s approach by reclassifying internet service providers as common carriers, subject to Title II of the Communications Act.
In taking that unprecedented action, the FCC unilaterally stripped the FTC of its traditional jurisdiction over ISPs. The FTC can no longer police the privacy practices of providers, leaving us with a two-track system under which the FCC applies its own set of rules for ISPs while the FTC monitors the rest of the internet ecosystem.
Even after the 2015 power grab, the FCC could have simply adopted as its own the FTC’s successful sensitivity-based model of privacy regulation. Instead—after last year’s election—the FCC finalized privacy regulations that deviate extensively from the FTC framework in several key respects.
The FCC rules subject all web browsing and app usage data to the same restrictive requirements as sensitive personal information. That means that information generated from looking up the latest Cardinals score or checking the weather in Scottsdale is treated the same as personal health and financial data.
The new rules also restrict an ISP’s ability to inform customers about innovative and cost-saving product offerings. So much for consumer choice.
The FCC’s overreach is a dangerous deviation from successful regulation and common-sense industry practices. But don’t just take my word for it. The FTC concluded that the FCC’s decision to treat ISPs differently from the rest of the internet ecosystem was “not optimal”—agency-speak for “a really bad idea.”
Outside of the FTC’s well-founded concerns, the new rules are also a departure from bipartisan agreement on the need for consistent online privacy rules. President Obama noted in 2012 that “companies should present choices about data sharing, collection, use, and disclosure that are appropriate for the scale, scope, and sensitivity of personal data in question at the time of collection.” In other words, privacy rules should be based on the data itself.
But that’s not how the FCC sees it. The commission’s rules suffocate industry and harm consumers by creating two completely different sets of requirements for different parts of the internet.
To protect consumers from these harmful new regulations, I will soon introduce a resolution under the Congressional Review Act to repeal the FCC’s flawed privacy rules. While the resolution would eliminate those rules, it would not change the current statutory classification of broadband service or bring ISPs back under FTC jurisdiction. Instead, the resolution would scrap the FCC’s newly imposed privacy rules in the hope that it would follow the FTC’s successful sensitivity-based framework.
This CRA resolution does nothing to change the privacy protections consumers currently enjoy. I hope Congress and the FCC will continue working together to address issues of concern down the road. However, it is imperative for rule-making entities to stay in their jurisdictional lanes. We need to reject these harmful midnight privacy regulations that serve only to empower bureaucrats and hurt consumers.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:36 pm to Iosh
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FTC doesn't have jurisdiction over ISPs
In matters of Privacy, they did prior to the FCC's "net neutrality" ruling. This just transfers it back to the FTC.
But everyone keep hyperventilating about how ISP's are completely unregulated now
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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To protect consumers from these harmful new regulations, I will soon introduce a resolution under the Congressional Review Act to repeal the FCC’s flawed privacy rules. While the resolution would eliminate those rules, it would not change the current statutory classification of broadband service or bring ISPs back under FTC jurisdiction. Instead, the resolution would scrap the FCC’s newly imposed privacy rules in the hope that it would follow the FTC’s successful sensitivity-based framework.
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Instead, the resolution would scrap the FCC’s newly imposed privacy rules in the hope that it would follow the FTC’s successful sensitivity-based framework.
quote:This is a joke right? You've got the real op-ed and the real rationale coming soon?
hope
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:39 pm to Centinel
The 2015 ruling was the largest expansion of power given to a gov't agency since the 1930s, according to the CBO.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:42 pm to Bench McElroy
Not agreeing with the vote but people are naive if they ever thought they had privacy online in the first place.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:43 pm to kingbob
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I just don't understand how anyone could think this was a good idea? They can't all be clueless or bought off, can they?
I'd say the vast, vast majority in both parties are simply voting party line here- this should be a bipartisan "no"
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:44 pm to RobbBobb
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This allows the smaller guys to compete
Wait... on what planet are the ISPs the little guy?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:48 pm to montanagator
So you think
Can compete with Google or Facebook?
quote:
4GPlusNet Services
Armstrong Zoom
B2X Online - VA
Bright House Networks
Optimum Online
CenturyLink
Charter Communications
Cincinnati Bell
Comcast High Speed Internet (also known as Xfinity)
Exede Internet
HughesNet
Interlync Internet Services
Mediacom
Midcontinent Communications
RCN Corporation
Rise Broadband
Sonic.net
Suddenlink Communications
Southern Fibernet
Ting Internet
PenTeleData
Windstream
Verizon High Speed Internet
WideOpenWest (WOW!)
Motorola Internet
Can compete with Google or Facebook?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:49 pm to Centinel
quote:Flake's op-ed explicitly says it doesn't.
In matters of Privacy, they did prior to the FCC's "net neutrality" ruling. This just transfers it back to the FTC.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:50 pm to montanagator
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this should be a bipartisan "no"
Why?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 4:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Don't you guys think there is more to this story if people like massie and Amash voted against it?
Seriously, read Jeff flakes op ed
NO. We're too busy hating the GOPe.
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