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Official NFL Draft Early Departure Discussion Thread

Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:16 am
Posted by RoyalLSU
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
804 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:16 am
Potential Losses to Draft

4 - Kwon Alexander - 6'2 227
- 2nd Team AP All-SEC
- 82 Total Tackles (11 Games)
- 34 Solo Tackles
- 1.5 Sacks



*Not listed as a top 10 ILB or OLB by Mel Kiper as of October 15
Kiper Insider Link

28 - Jalen Mills - 6'0 194
- 54 Total Tackles
- 23 Solo Tackles
- 1 Interception
- 5 Passes Defended



*Listed as #2 rated safety only behind Landon Collins by Mel Kiper as of October 15
*Listed as #5B rated Underclass CORNERBACK by Kiper back in June
Insider
*Listed as #3 rated safety behind Landon Collins and Cody Prewitt by WalterFootball as of November 8 (Round 1-3)
WalterFootball

32 - Jalen Collins - 6'2 198
- 33 Total Tackles (10 Games)
- 23 Solo Tackles
- 1 Interception
- 9 Passes Defended



*Not listed as a top 10 CB by Mel Kiper as of October 15
*Listed as #6 CB by WalterFootball as of November 8 (Round 1-3)
WalterFootball

65 - Jerald Hawkins - 6'6 309



*Not listed as a top 10 OT by Mel Kiper as of October 15
*Not listed in top 27 OT by WalterFootball

74 - Vadal Alexander - 6'6 320
- Honorable Mention AP All-SEC
- 2nd Team Coaches All-SEC



*Listed as #4 OG by Mel Kiper as of October 15
*Listed as #2 Underclass OG by Kiper back in June
Insider
*Listed as #4 OG by WalterFootball as of November 8 (Round 2-3)

83 - Travin Dural - 6'2 192
- 37 Receptions
- 758 Yards
- 7 Touchdowns



**WILL RETURN FOR 2015 SEASON** - December 16

94 - Danielle Hunter - 6'6 240
- 64 Total Tackles
- 27 Solo Tackles
- 1.5 Sacks
- 6 Pass Deflections



*Not listed as a top 10 DE by Mel Kiper as of October 15
*Not listed as a top 32 DE by WalterFootball as of November 8
*Rated #7 DE (36 overall) by CBS Sports as of December 9th
CBS

DraftTek Mock Draft
36. Danielle Hunter
52. La'El Collins (can't be reliable site)
89. Jalen Collins
LINK

DraftSite.com Mock Draft
9. La'El Collins (SR)
59. Jalen Collins
152. Ronald Martin (SR)
LINK


Please add more mocks/rankings as they come along

This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 1:36 am
Posted by kbol34
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2013
583 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:32 am to
I think Vadal maybe has an argument to leave, but could rise into the first round if he stays-follows in L Collins' path.
The rest absolutely should stay.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45142 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:33 am to
Tired of holding out hope that guys return so I'm gonna assume they're all bolting for the league. That way I don't get disappointed
Posted by GeauxLSU95
Member since Aug 2011
647 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:35 am to
So Im guessing if they all came back then this time next year the 1st team All-Sec D will look something like this...

All-Sec - T. White
All-Sec - K. Alexander
All-Sec - K. Beckwith
All-Sec - J. Collins
All-Sec- D. Hunter
All-Sec - J. Adams

Lol, I wish.

Btw, great thread!
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 1:48 am
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38217 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:43 am to
Draft ranking:
OG La'el Collins: High: 1st rd Low: 3rd rd
SS Ronald Martin: High: 6th rd Low: UDFA
C Elliot Porter (MD RS possible): UDFA
DE Jermauaria Rasco: High: 3rd Low: 6th
OG Evan Washington: UDFA
TE Logan Stokes: UDFA
TE Travis Dickson: UDFA
FB Connor Neighbors: High: 7th UDFA
RB Kenny Hilliard: High: 6th Low: UDFA
RB Terrence Magee: High: 6th Low: UDFA




Early departure chances:
OLB K. Alexander: 50/50 chance. High: 3rd Low: 7th
CB/FS J. Mills: 65% chance of leaving. High: 3rd Low: 5th
CB J. Collins: 70% leaving. High: 4rd Low: 5th
OT J. Hawkins: Needs to stay, probably won't. UDFA
G V. Alexander: 50/50 chance High: 7th Low: UDFA
WR T. Dural: 98% chance of staying. High: 7th Low: UDFA
DE/OLB D. Hunter: Mom wants him to get his degree. 68% chance of staying. High: 2nd Low: 5th

Just a general feeling.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 12:52 am
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:52 am to
I'm like GCTiger11, I hope they come back, but who am I to advise them. I don't know their circumstances.
Posted by Ironhead985
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
8720 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:56 am to
I think Kwon and the Jalens bolt and maybe Hawkins, but the rest I feel good about.
Posted by USARMYDasher
Palm Harbor, FL
Member since Aug 2013
905 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:08 am to
Odd that Kwon isn't receiving much love. I honestly believe all should return except for Vadal who actually is most likely to stay.

Jalen Mills is gone. He's been playing at a high level since his freshman year. He's on a few teams boards around 2-3 round.

Jalen Collins stock isn't that high. He's played well, but never had a true breakout game or season. Should return to be an anchor next to Tre White.

Kwon Alexander will probably see where he would go, but this year's draft is full of OLBs. Especially seniors with a year more experience. Kwon would benefit from another solid year on the defense with a 100+ season. When LSU linebackers get recognized (Sheppard, Minter, etc) they had 100+ tackle seasons.

Hawkins should return. Hasn't necessarily been explosive on the line. Especially since the line was hit or miss this season. Physically ready, just needs more experience and finesse on his technique.

Vadal Alexander is the most capable NFL ready player on our team. Been a starter since day one. Really showed out. I believe La'el Collins convinced him to stay till his senior year for a first round pick which he would be. Coach Cam Cameron even hinted towards him staying.

Travin Dural started out hot. Has a lot of talent. Poor quarterback play really hindered his season. Will almost certainly return next year, but will leave after next year.

Danielle Hunter came on strong in the middle of season. Could potentially leave and get picked up in rounds 6-7. He needs to return one more year and have a big season 6+ sacks/TFLs and maintain at a high level and will certainly improve his stock. Another year will boost him up. Could certainly see him as a Keke Mingo in hiding.
Posted by RoyalLSU
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
804 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:09 am to
In my opinion, for what its worth

Chances of leaving:

Mills - 80%
Vadal - 70%
Collins - 65%
Kwon - 50%
Hunter - 35%
Hawkins - 25%
Dural - 5%
Posted by MrPackSix
Lakeview/God's Country
Member since Oct 2009
8220 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:12 am to
After the last few years I'm now going to assume EVERYONE leaves until they announce otherwise

Boggles my mind that some of these kids still bolted just to go undrafted
Posted by GeauxLSU95
Member since Aug 2011
647 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 3:15 pm to
LINK /


Just found this link. Think it may help.

Noticed Kwon wasn't on any of these mock drafts. Neither is Mills. If those 2 come back, I honestly don't see our D losing a step whatsoever.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43296 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 3:20 pm to
-Kwon would benefit greatly from another season.
-Mills gone
-Collins should stay
-Hawkins Stays
-Alexander is probably gone, but could benefit from staying.
-Dural stays
-Hunter stays

In a best-case scenario, I think Kwon and Alexander stay so we only lose Mills, and that would be awesome. Mills is a very good safety, though.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56009 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

DE/OLB D. Hunter: Mom wants him to get his degree. 68% chance of staying. High: 2nd Low: 5th



I Think he leaves but we shall see

quote:

OLB K. Alexander: 50/50 chance. High: 3rd Low: 7th


I think he stays, he could be a 2nd or 1st rounder by 2017

quote:

CB/FS J. Mills: 65% chance of leaving. High: 3rd Low: 5th


gone

quote:

CB J. Collins: 70% leaving. High: 4rd Low: 5th


quote:

G V. Alexander: 50/50 chance High: 7th Low: UDFA


he should stay

quote:

OT J. Hawkins: Needs to stay, probably won't. UDFA


why would he stay if he is UDFA prediction?

quote:

WR T. Dural: 98% chance of staying. High: 7th Low: UDFA


If QB play gets better he will get a big bump. Hope he comes back

We should have a good returning group next year.. Biggest hole to fill will be O-Line but I think we will be fine there.

QB I know the rant hates this position but it will get better either harris will emerge or Jennings will play well enough to get some good offense.

RB we lose two but LF7 will be beastly plus some good RB coming in this class

WR very young will improve

O-line biggest ?

D-line should get much better

LB If Alexander comes back we will be very good, but even if he doesn't we will be good

CB/S I think good again even though we have holes to fill.

Offense will get better, we will lean heavy on the run but the QB will improve I think, enough to get us a decent offense.

Defense could be shades of 2011 good. Our D will be top notch and one of the best defenses in the SEC and the nation.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 5:35 pm to
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Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
29956 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:40 pm to
Mills and collins are gone
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:39 pm to
They're all gone, just accept it now
Posted by Jonathan Ikon
Member since Aug 2014
537 posts
Posted on 12/13/14 at 11:56 am to
Only Vadal and Hunter should consider it. There are valid reasons for both to come back and understandable reasons for both to leave. Depends on whether they want to be patient and get guaranteed $10+ million or be impatient and lock in guaranteed $1-2 million now.

The latter isn't chump change but it's not "set for life" either.

Everyone else being speculated about would be making massive mistakes coming out now.
Posted by RoyalLSU
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
804 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:24 am to
Bump to add that LSU sent in for the following 5 draft grades: Vadal, Kwon Alexander, Jerald Hawkins, Jalen Collins, and Danielle Hunter.

Not in the 5 was Jalen Mills

LSU petitioned to get additional draft grades.
Posted by BASED
yamamma the OG
Member since May 2012
3354 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:32 am to
That 2012 class should have a few guys stay for their senior years. Hunter and Alexander are the two that I think stay and make a huge difference next year
Posted by RoyalLSU
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
804 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:37 am to
Also edited to add Travin Dural announces he will return for 2015 season.
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