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Continental Resources unwinds its crude hedges - takes $433MM gain, goes naked

Posted on 11/6/14 at 4:06 pm
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2471 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 4:06 pm
Some balls on this guy
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 4:14 pm to
Unhedged, but I wouldn't necessarily call this naked. They do own the oil after all.

Still, he's taking on someone with much deeper pockets. He does have a set.

Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2471 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 5:40 pm to
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They do own the oil after all.


Which they will continue to incur costs to produce, transport and market if under a contractual supply commitment or the carry to park in storage. They are straight up long physical crude. Sounds nekkid to me
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19586 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:02 pm to
He better be worried about those divorce proceedings coming up. Stupid arse should have gotten a prenup, she is about to be quite rich.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:26 pm to
I heard it's the most expensive divorce in history. Can you imagine?

Prenup would've helped...staying faithful would've also, but that's gotta be hard when you're worth 10 billion dollars

Here's to Harold Hamm-an American Badass

I actually had a job offer from them, seemed like a pretty good company.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19586 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:56 pm to
Yea he is like a modern day Sid Richardson, Hunt, etc. Just instead of it being TX its ND.

Diff and American Badass.

Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2471 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 7:46 pm to
Sounds like he went naked on his marriage too
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19586 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:36 pm to
Talk about taking a hit.

LINK
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80765 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:47 pm to
That is an expensive pussy
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19586 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:49 pm to
Exhibit A on why you get a prenup even if you arent worth 16B.

Ill be coming to the OT to be asking advice on breaking that to her.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80765 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:41 pm to
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asking advice on breaking that to her.
GOOD LUCK!
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7871 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 9:47 am to
She was an attorney for Continental as it grew, he's actually getting off pretty light from a % basis with no pre-nup.

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:27 am to
A billion is nothing to laugh at, but he needs to hit his knees tonight giving thanks it wasn't much worse. Approx 8 percent of net worth is a lot better than 50.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:36 am to
And seriously---if you're worth that much, what difference does one of your billions make in the end? You'll still end up in a pine box with plenty of money to spare.
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:34 pm to
Last place I worked at used to hedge their inventory (oil/fuel oil distributor) and I always thought it was a gamble hedged or un-hedged. Almost impossible to completely predict the market.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:17 pm to
Hedging is about risk, you're not trying to predict or outsmart the market. It's an acknowledgment that you don't know.
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 12:37 pm to
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Hedging is about risk, you're not trying to predict or outsmart the market. It's an acknowledgment that you don't know.


They had over $100 million in oil/fuel oil inventory and used it for risk purposes. If you hedge at a certain price (say $100) and market goes up ($110 so your inventory price goes up also) I don't see how you are protecting yourself. If you are hedging 100% of your inventory you just lost $10/bbl.
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2471 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:19 pm to
It's about securing a cash flow stream and locking in profits. The banks and PE firms that finance the independents will gladly give up that $10 of upside to ensure they don't lose $10+ on the wrong side.
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:55 pm to
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The banks and PE firms that finance the independents will gladly give up that $10 of upside to ensure they don't lose $10+ on the wrong side.


Makes sense especially with how the market has been in the last 6 months.

Posted by tiddlesmcdiddles
Lafayette, LA
Member since Apr 2013
1719 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:30 am to
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Which they will continue to incur costs to produce, transport and market


not to mention oil/gas is a depleting resource and add on top that he doesn't plan to add any new rigs while prices are low, sounds pretty risky. unless he plans to buy production to keep their numbers up?
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