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re: Rumor: new restaurant opening in Lakeview?

Posted on 4/25/13 at 5:29 am to
Posted by Buck Dancer
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2008
4680 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 5:29 am to
My wife wondered the same thing, how can they make a nice outdoor space with the interstate right there. I hope the place pans out and is good food and drinks, it is very close to my house and would be nice to have something like that in that spot.
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24791 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 6:56 am to
I would say about 80% of the city has a moratorium on alcohol permits. Even if you buy an existing business with a permit, you will have to apply for a waiver (unless you buy the old restaurant/bar's corporation).

In most instances, after you pay the city over a grand for the waiver and pay for all the architecial drawings (city wants 16 of them) and meet with the neighborhood groups to get their approval, you should be ok. But it's no guarantee and all the money that you put out is of course non refundable. (You could me in to close to 10k)

And if you are opening a bar (or a restaurant for that matter) where a Moratorium is - the city does not allow you to get poker machines (even if you jump through hoops and are granted an abo license)

One would think that all of this would increase the value of existing operations with alcohol and/or video poker machines in areas where a moratorium is located but since the city requires you to purchase the old location's entity, it has made it harder to find buyers for your business and values go down.
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 7:22 am
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 7:19 am to
I went to Nola Beans a few times when I was in high school. Thought it was good but veryyyyyy overpriced for a cafe. Like their prices were WORSE than Cafe Cafe and Chateau Cafe. A salad and a drink cost me around $17 there for lunch once .
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5803 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 8:52 am to
Yep, its pretty much an additional tax.

And all of this is being done so they can eventually get through this CZO that will just lead to more requests for waivers, etc... Too much estrogen on City Council, but that is a discussion for another day.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:11 am to
Between parking requirements and alcohol permits, it's a miracle any new restaurants and bars are even opening.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:03 am to
quote:

Between parking requirements and alcohol permits, it's a miracle any new restaurants and bars are even opening.


It's really like they've said, let's take the ONE AND ONLY THING that New Orleans is generally known to do better than just about anywhere else in the country, and see how we can frick it up with layers upon layers of pointless bureaucracy just because we can.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70280 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:13 am to
quote:

It's really like they've said, let's take the ONE AND ONLY THING that New Orleans is generally known to do better than just about anywhere else in the country, and see how we can frick it up with layers upon layers of pointless bureaucracy just because we can.


Is it bars and restaurants that we do better than everyone else, or fricking up a good thing with layers upon layers of pointless bureaucracy that we do better than everyone else?

An argument can be made both ways.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15046 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:37 am to
quote:

It's really like they've said, let's take the ONE AND ONLY THING that New Orleans is generally known to do better than just about anywhere else in the country, and see how we can frick it up with layers upon layers of pointless bureaucracy just because we can.

I feel like the nimbyism is running out of control post K. I mean, you always had the uptown wannabe monocle-wearers flipping out over innocuous shite like the Whole Foods on magazine, but now it's spread to pretty much every neighborhood in the city.
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5803 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:50 am to
Nail on head.

The neighborhood associations which proliferated post-K (in order to serve vital purpose, such as getting electricity restored) have now largely been rendered as sub-bosses for the City Council mafia.
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