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Posted on 11/20/21 at 3:55 am to RyanMartin835
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I'm an RN in Louisiana. Our CEO has held out until this week for court clarifications but has announced it. First dose or one dose clot shot mandatory by December 6th. Apparently Senile Joe and the Hoe's mandate deadline approaches and they have no choice or else will lose Medicare/Medicaid funding. Looking for any help with refusal/ exemption forms. I see that the religious one will be easily denied. I understand that they will not fire us but will not allow us to work and basically make us quit. A local cardiologist told a family member of mine to make them fire you and that is your only legal recourse.
If you persist in going down this route then you will be fired or not allowed to work and basically be suspended without pay. So you are going to have a legal fight. Here are a few suggestions which will strengthen your legal case.
1. Go to your doctor and discuss it with him or her and get your doctor to order covid antibody titers.
2. Get your most recent employee handbook and turn to their section regarding vaccines for MMR, hepatitis, etc.
3. Get an attorney and pay for the attorney to write a cease and desist letter sent to your employer.
Most hospitals have the policy of allowing employers to get their titers against those viruses checked regularly at company expense instead of getting another round of vaccines. The hospital I work at changed its policy for flu vaccine, and made it mandatory just like covid, but they did not change the policy regarding all vaccines. If you can prove that you have good antibody titers against covid then you can get a doctor (unless he or she is in the get the jab or die camp) to sign a document saying that there it is not medically necessary to be vaccinated. If your company still allows getting your titers checked regularly at company expense as an alternative to vaccination or getting a booster for those viruses but not for covid then get your lawyer attorney to send a cease and desist letter before they realize the omission and change their policies. No doctor is going to get involved in your company's policies because that is not our job, but we will sign off a document saying you have sufficient immunity if we have the proper lab work to back us up. If you have documentation from your doctor saying that you have sufficient immunity and your employer has been served a cease and desist letter while their policies still allow you to have your titers checked as an alternative to vaccination and they still fire you or keep you from working then your attorney will be able to go HAM on their arse.
If I felt as strongly as you do then I would try for the religious exemption if I were you. The federal government will press you hard and/or reject so you are SOL if you work for the VA or are in the military. However, no private employer is going to risk a religious discrimination lawsuit especially if you have an attorney write your religious exemption and not that BS example that has been posted on here (not saying the BS example is not good enough but I would want something stronger if my livelihood was on the line).
ETA: I personally think your position is f**king stupid, but I support your right do things that others think are f**king stupid without losing your job.So I wish you good luck in your legal fight even though I think your position is f**king stupid.
This post was edited on 11/20/21 at 4:05 am
Posted on 11/20/21 at 3:57 am to ItalianTiger
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Thankfully we are able to get religious exemptions. They are approved with ease.
Did you have an attorney write it or did you use that example of a self written one that has been posted here multiple times?
Posted on 11/20/21 at 4:19 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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DeSantis should tell Biden to go frick himself.
I'm pretty sure he did that when he signed the antimandate bill in the city of Brandon.
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The Federal Govt will absolutely not withhold funding for Medicare/Medicaid.
Landry and the other suing CMS might win their lawsuit, but that will not change shite. CMS might not be able to withhold funding because if the courts decide against them. However, CMS will always be able to "review" any facility or provider they want and challenge or deny claims. If any healthcare facility or provider that does not comply with the vaccine mandates then you can bet your arse that CMS will "review" them and start challenging claims and reimbursing at a lower level or rejecting claims all together. CMS cannot say shite about an employer approving or denying exemptions, but they can and will fiscally harm any institution/provider who does not comply with their demands and institute a mandate.
Posted on 11/20/21 at 4:34 am to WeeWee
Thanks for your input Wee Wee on my "fricking stupid position." We'll see how this plays out.
This post was edited on 11/20/21 at 5:09 am
Posted on 11/20/21 at 6:00 am to RyanMartin835
I believe this was stated previously, but, if worse comes to worse (and it will not) make them fire you.
This post was edited on 11/20/21 at 6:01 am
Posted on 11/20/21 at 6:38 am to Sam4LSU
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Posted on 11/20/21 at 6:57 am to RyanMartin835
The religious exemption is easier to get. Go the route of abortion and fetal cells. All 3 used fetal cells in the research and development.
Read title VII of the EEOC on religious exemption.
Medical exemption will be harder to get approved. I hate how the govt has put us in this situation.
Read title VII of the EEOC on religious exemption.
Medical exemption will be harder to get approved. I hate how the govt has put us in this situation.
Posted on 11/20/21 at 7:54 am to RyanMartin835
Posted on 11/20/21 at 7:58 am to RyanMartin835
I went the fetal cell line route for my covid vaccine exemption. It was super long and very detailed. It was denied twice, then approved once I threatened an EEOC complaint for religious discrimination. They said since the Archbishop in New Orleans wasn't against vaccines, they had a right to deny my exemption as a Catholic.
For the flu vaccine exemption, I typed a single paragraph basically quoting scripture about how I'm made in God's image, how I must obey no other governing body apart from Him, and said that I had prayed to God and He told me not to get the vaccine. They approved that one no problem.
Go the generic as possible route.
For the flu vaccine exemption, I typed a single paragraph basically quoting scripture about how I'm made in God's image, how I must obey no other governing body apart from Him, and said that I had prayed to God and He told me not to get the vaccine. They approved that one no problem.
Go the generic as possible route.
This post was edited on 11/20/21 at 7:59 am
Posted on 11/28/21 at 5:03 pm to Stitches
I've got my exemption typed up and have mentioned Title VII of the Civil Rights Act BUT would like to mention some Louisiana info ... what I find is written in legal jargon and I don't want to misinterpret.
Louisiana Preservation of Religious Freedom Act info but I can't just mention the title of this without understanding a little. Can anyone quickly interpret a blurb or two for me?
Louisiana Preservation of Religious Freedom Act info but I can't just mention the title of this without understanding a little. Can anyone quickly interpret a blurb or two for me?
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