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re: Science Failure: White Bread ain’t bad for you. You were force fed a lie for 40 years.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:32 am to c on z
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:32 am to c on z
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Simple carbs can turn into sugar in the body.
They do turn into sugar, in other words convert to glucose. Alcohol is a simple sugar, in fact the most simple sugar there is. It doesn’t have to be digested, it’s absorbed straight into the bloodstream. That’s why you feel the effects of liquor within minutes.
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:33 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Sure 100 cal of low GI food is the same as 100 cal of high GI food when it comes to weight gain.
Now to insulin sensitivity and satiety.
yeah while i am in the cult that things like sugar can affect your hormones in a way that affects weight (really fat), that's not the real point
satiation is the major point. carbs are absolute shite for satiation, and the more sugar you have, the worse it gets.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 11:35 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:33 am to Cosmo
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Some sources of calories are worse than others
FIFY
A calorie is just a unit of heat energy. A calorie is a calorie. Sources of calories vary greatly.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:34 am to Salmon
People who thought this study showed anythign newsworthy
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In view of all the contrary evidence from observational cohort studies and meta-analyses of RCTs, it is surprising that the hypothesis that low-GI (“slow-carb”) diets are superior for weight loss and obesity prevention persists. Carbohydrate quality, including GI, clearly impacts many health outcomes (17, 18, 25), and several meta-analyses have reported higher risks of T2D, cardiovascular disease, and stroke associated with high-GI diets (25, 86–89). However, GI as a measure of carbohydrate quality appears to be unimportant as a determinant of BMI or diet-induced weight loss.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:34 am to Salmon
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Carbohydrate quality, including GI, clearly impacts many health outcomes (17, 18, 25), and several meta-analyses have reported higher risks of T2D, cardiovascular disease, and stroke associated with high-GI diets (25, 86–89). However, GI as a measure of carbohydrate quality appears to be unimportant as a determinant of BMI or diet-induced weight loss.
I didn't know this was still debated by anyone with credibility
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:35 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Mingo won’t like this, nor will the keto crew on the health board.
What I get out of the article is that the study is saying that carbs are carbs no matter how complex they are. The 200 calories worth of carbs in your whole grain wheat bread aren't that different than the 200 calories worth of hfcs in your Coke, at least as it relates to diet and weight.
But what will help lose weight is cutting both foods out because zero calories will help lose weight over 200 calories of carbs.
I still think (feel) like complex carbs are probably better for you than so called fast carbs. Especially, as other posters have said, in regards to satiation and avoiding overeating. Not to mention the pseudo-addictive properties of sugar.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 11:36 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:35 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:It wasnt
I didn't know this was still debated by anyone with credibility
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:37 am to Kujo
If I want a PBJ or bologna sandwich it will be sliced white bread.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:39 am to CitizenK
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If I want a PBJ or bologna sandwich it will be sliced white bread.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:39 am to Kujo
White Bread is not good for you because it's so highly processed. I have gotten to where I read the labels on everything I buy and, if it's highly processed or contains a lot of added sugar, I don't buy it. I only eat either Ezekiel Bread of Dave's Killer Bread.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:41 am to lsupride87
It's correlation between use of HFCS (used to sweeten white bread and most things massed produced) with rise in obesity and type II diabetes.
That being said, poor kids who have extra money tend to blow it on candy.
That being said, poor kids who have extra money tend to blow it on candy.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:41 am to Bryno1960
Everybody on this board is either a Covid 19 expert or a nutritionist.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 11:53 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The obesity in the USA started long after white bread or soda was created. Its the quantity.
Portion control is important, and when you realize you can get by eating a lot less (volume), it gets easier to do. But it’s also easy to fall off the wagon because current US society is 100% huge portions of calorie dense foods.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:43 am to Kujo
The problem with white versus wheat is in how your body processes it, same with white rice versus brown rice. You want your body to expend energy to break it down.
Honestly though, except for French bread on my occasional poboy, I seriously prefer whole wheat to white on sandwiches. I prefer it on burgers as well. Texture is better, taste is more interesting, and it does not fall apart when you bite into it.
Honestly though, except for French bread on my occasional poboy, I seriously prefer whole wheat to white on sandwiches. I prefer it on burgers as well. Texture is better, taste is more interesting, and it does not fall apart when you bite into it.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:45 am to Kujo
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soft drinks
Liquid calories are tricky. Yeah, the occasional Coke won't kill you. The problem is that you can sit there and suck 3 down during a meal, and not even realize you've just consumed 420 calories.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:47 am to Mike da Tigah
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The problem with white versus wheat is in how your body processes it, same with white rice versus brown rice. You want your body to expend energy to break it down.
Explain
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
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In moderation, white bread is fine. The obesity in the USA started long after white bread or soda was created. Its the quantity.
You are correct, and this would work for the person who is paying attention to what they eat.
Problem is 90% of Americans just eat whatever they want when they are hungry.
My hypothesis is that our sugar loaded low GI diets are making the average person more hungry, more frequently. So people who lack will power or are generally uneducated just eat when they are hungry.
If you just removed all low GI foods from the market people that don’t pay attention to their diets would end up eating less
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:53 am to WaWaWeeWa
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My hypothesis is that our sugar loaded low GI diets are making the average person more hungry, more frequently.
man you can feel it. i've fallen off the wagon but have started working back good eating habits. i cook almost all of my meals except for 1-2 meals over the weekends. if i have to like go on a trip and eat fast food, i feel so much different in terms of hunger-desire. it isn't even always the same type of food. like after i eat fast food, my body wants some sort of sugary treat and i crave it hard core for a day or so. the stark difference is crazy to me
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:54 am to Mingo Was His NameO
He’s likely talking about thermic effect of food but it’s not that much to matter. The fiber is the important part.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:54 am to St Augustine
The level of dishonesty and/or mental illness needed to put out a cover like that one by Cosmopolitan is staggering.
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