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Crazy construction materials news I learned today

Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:51 pm
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:51 pm
1/3 of all commercial steel trusses in inventory AND planned for manufacture this year are slated for Amazon construction projects.

All manufacturing of commercial and residential sheathing is running 4 months behind.

Common residential construction material inventories will be exhausted early April.

The construction industry is about to be in serious trouble. Work will be plentiful in the short term, but lack of - and cost - of materials is going to cause lots of pain.

On the flip side, existing home values will skyrocket.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11528 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:00 pm to
You would hope market forces would make some corrections but with free money flowing in multiple forms and business being funneled away from small business and into the mega corps I don't see an end in sight. Add in that we are due for inflation any time now and we may never see lower material prices again, not anything an average person can afford anyway.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
5530 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:02 pm to
You got a source?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53119 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:05 pm to
Yep. Biden hired amazon to build cages for trump supporters.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:10 pm to
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Posted by Misnomer
Member since Apr 2020
3451 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:11 pm to
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33962 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

Common residential construction material inventories will be exhausted early April.


I believe it. I sell construction material and it’s been tough to fill film orders for the last 6 weeks or so and it keeps getting worse
Posted by Clint Eastwood
Member since May 2015
229 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:33 pm to
Steel companies are quoting 4th quarter on steel for jobs starting now. If you know construction, steel is one of the first submittals processed. I’ve been waiting on joist for 3 weeks now. They finally showed up last Friday and were the wrong shipment. Amazon has everything messed up right now.
Posted by Phil
Member since Jun 2010
368 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:35 pm to
I work for a GC who does a lot of industrial/big box warehouses. Steel cost have gone up over $2.00/sf since December. That’s about 25%. It’s killing us across the board as it trickles down to other trades. We are having to pull the trigger on steel with quotes only good for 1-2 weeks.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
39789 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:39 pm to
It's getting ridiculous. We're having price increases monthly. Owners in LA already cant afford shite.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30288 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:39 pm to
That’s probably not going to line up well with my 3 year plan to own a house around that time.
Posted by TigerSaint1
Member since Apr 2014
1479 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:45 pm to
Where’d you see/hear that?
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
14820 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:09 pm to
How much for a bundle of 2x4x96 pine??
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10503 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 6:03 am to
I’m thinking that prices are becoming unsustainable.

There’s just so much talk about it. There’s like 5 posts on this site alone about lumber and or building materials.
I was talking to a ups driver the other day and he commented that he wanted to build a shed but the price of lumber made it prohibitive.
My neighbor sells building materials and we usually only talk about sports and HIS kids but last week it was all materials.

I have a theory about the cost of things whether it’s housing, college tuition, stock market and now building materials- when everyone’s talking about the high cost, it’s a sign that things are about to crash.

This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 6:23 am
Posted by Flanders
Bham
Member since May 2008
9844 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 6:23 am to
There’s another steel increase coming this month. Scrap has gone up another $70/ton in the last week.

Should hit us at the melting mills any day now.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62881 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 6:38 am to
what are new home construction costs estimated now? Just 2 years ago it was around $120/so. That was for a good, not great, home.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 7:11 am to
I have a project at a new boarding school being built. They have been waiting on sheetrock for 3 months now. Another project we are on is multiple months behind as well, all for materials.
My cousin is a residential contractor. He is paying 300% more for lumber now than this time last year, when he's lucky.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27153 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 7:35 am to
My information is location specific and I can't speak to other regions in the country. I am a manufacturer of building materials, fabricated glass and aluminum specifically, and I serve middle Tennessee, Southern Kentucky, and Northern Alabama. My market is red hot and has been for close to a decade now, which is why I can't speak to other locations.

Float glass prices went up 8-10ish% back in December, which corresponded to about a 12% increase on the final price of fabricated glass products, such as shower doors and insulating glass. Glass supply has generally been pretty good. There's been a couple hiccups, but nothing like we had a few years back when there was a worldwide glass shortage. I luckily have options since it's a global commodity. China, Europe, Israel/Turkey, and US can all get me glass. I prefer to buy "local," but I have been getting a little more imported because of domestic supply lead times and also decreasing domestic quality.

Aluminum is where it gets tricky. Storefront and curtainwall metals are getting longer and longer lead times. What used to be a week is now 4+ weeks. God help you if you have custom doors. The price has gone up about 7% or so in the past year, so not terrible. Our industry is used to getting aluminum orders a week after ordering, so that mentality is having to change. We had some push-back on longer lead times at first, but glass companies and GCs are finally starting to understand as they see this problem industry-wide.

In addition to manufacturing, I also do installation of both residential and commercial glass. I foresee no slowdown in residential work. Frankly, I can't keep up. If you would have asked me 18 months ago if I could get any busier, I'd have had laughed at you because I didn't think I could handle any more. Shows how wrong I was.

I am seeing a slowdown in commercial construction in late spring/early summer. In talking with people smarter than myself, it seems it will be a short slowdown due to architects and clients slowing down right at the start of covid. Just sort of a lull in plans getting produced and clients pulling the trigger.

On a personal anecdotal level, I bought a house five years ago. At the time I thought I was making a mistake because I couldn't see how our local housing market was sustainable. Fast forward to now and my house has gone from $250k to $400k in value and it shows no sign of letting off the gas. Houses are still going for sale and getting multiple cash bids over asking price on the same day. It's stupid. For better or worse, Nashville is hot. It's great for business, but I'm still undecided whether it's good for the city I used to know.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10056 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:28 am to
Lot of pricing manipulation going on. Building has picked up with rates plummeting, and renovations and remodeling too, but not enough to drive this. Manufacturers seem to be controlling supply to recoup early 2020 losses.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:16 am to
Thanks Trump
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