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What is the “normal” ratio of mortgage loan vs annual income?

Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:57 pm
Posted by Cblack23
Da Boot
Member since Jun 2017
123 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:57 pm
I’m about to jump into a mortgage that is roughly 2.3 times what I bring in annually. Am I “OK” at this rate or am I forcing myself into a tough situation?

Additional info...
Single income
3 kiddos
Other than mortgage, bills/other debts are typically 23% of income

Appreciate any advice, TIA.
Posted by ReadyPlayer1
Clown World
Member since Oct 2020
1063 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:06 pm to
2.3 times you gross or net ?

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Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

What is the “normal” ratio of mortgage loan vs annual income?
There's really no normal, as same income has a wide range of expenses.
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:16 pm to
Mine originally was 2.5 times at the time. As years go by your income generally increases and it didn’t feel as bad over time. You’ll be fine 2.5X or under. To me it’s more important from a cash flow perspective that you’re ok rather than a total loan amount
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 6:17 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:20 pm to
2.5 times gross used to be the old adage but obviously that depends on many other factors.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:21 pm to
My new mortgage is about 2.5x my annual salary.
Posted by ellesssuuu
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
2808 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:42 pm to
For mortgage approval it’s 45% total debt to income ratio
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30623 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

What is the “normal” ratio of mortgage loan vs annual income?

Don’t worry about “normal”. “Normal” people are on average not preparing for retirement and in debt up to their chins. Be better than normal
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54183 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

Single income
3 kiddos
you’ll never make enough money

Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:17 pm to
My first house, the bank preapproved me for damn near 7X’s my annual income.

I say go for it!
Posted by Fox McCloud
Member since Oct 2020
3525 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:48 pm to
2.3x is nothing. Mine is 4x my household salary and we have never had any issues. The interest rates are so low right now you can afford a lot of house.
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3372 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:52 pm to
I feel comfortable at 2x gross with single income and 6 kids.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12620 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

I’m about to jump into a mortgage that is roughly 2.3 times what I bring in annually. Am I “OK” at this rate or am I forcing myself into a tough situation?


You should think about monthly payment instead.

Make a monthly budget (include saving for vacations) see how much you have for a monthly house payment. Then determine the total mortgage from there.

If your only entertainment expenses are Netflix and internet, you can afford a lot more than if you do CrossFit, like to fly planes, play golf and your kids are taking gymnastics lessons and go to private school.

2.3 times seems conservative to me, so I’d think you’re fine unless you have a bad car note, student loans, or your kids have lots of expensive activities. I’d like to know where you’re living that you can get in a good school system at only 2.3 times income.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 10:02 pm
Posted by down time
space
Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:27 pm to
If i can't pay for my place with a weeks work its too high
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15979 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 5:37 am to
Many people look at their house as an “investment.” That is certainly a valid perspective.

I look at it as a place to live.

Your income will likely go up over the years.
Interest rates are historically low.

I don’t think you are doing anything foolish, as long as you don’t have to move for say 3 to 5 years.

Good luck!

I know others won’t like this, but if you can avoid PMI- do it.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6461 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 6:08 am to
We’re hoping to buy our first home later this year and I’m not going to go over 2.5x.

Sure, some may say that’s low, but that’s where I feel comfortable starting. By the time this all happens we will have no other debt, so that helps.

I’m throttling every retirement vehicle I can, pouring money into an HSA, as well as saving for some future business investment. So while I will have no other debt, money is being diverted elsewhere which keeps me at the conservative 2.5%.
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3280 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 7:43 am to
How old are your kids? I was not prepared for the huge spike in expenses when my kids wen to high school. (My own fault for sure). My tuition went from 10K to 25K over 3 years time. My car insurance went from about $1800 a year to $12K a couple years later. We made it, but it was rough going for a while. The good thing is those are all discretionary expenses.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:54 am to
Dave Ramsey has always said that your monthly mortgage payment shouldn't be more than 25% of your take home. Tough for a lot of people to make happen.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10617 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 11:31 am to
My situation is a bit different than yours but ours is looking to be 1.45X gross annual income. I think our debt to income was like 12%.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80803 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 11:33 am to
We did 1.8x at the time - but could certainly afford up to 3.0x. You have to run the numbers based upon your current monthly expenditures, making sure you have a nice size buffer of excess coming in
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