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re: Men - what do you do to lower your triglycerides & cholesterol?
Posted on 9/2/20 at 9:47 am to LSUfan20005
Posted on 9/2/20 at 9:47 am to LSUfan20005
I am by no means a huge statin guy, but this guy has two brothers with MASSIVE heart attacks before they turned 40. Dementia when he is 80+(even if it is a real risk) is the least of his worries.
Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:38 am to SlidellCajun
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the risk of having a stroke because of high cholesterol?
Again, this premise is being called into question.
Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:39 am to Duck
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I am by no means a huge statin guy, but this guy has two brothers with MASSIVE heart attacks before they turned 40. Dementia when he is 80+(even if it is a real risk) is the least of his worries.
He and his brothers are also obese, and likely have very poor diets, in addition to not exercising.
Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:50 am to Mo Jeaux
I don't disagree with you, but Family History is a huge issue. It is more determinate than anything else in life. Given that he should do everything in his power to 1) lose weight, 2) eat better, & 3) lower his dam cholesterol.
At this point in his life, he should make drastic changes including strong consideration to a statin. If his other life changes materialize, he can try to get off said statin assuming his cholesterol and other bloodwork remains good.
Statins are massively over prescribed and pushed by doctors at the first sign of high cholestorol; however, given his family history he is a PRIME CANDIDATE. He should do everything to lower his risk of atherosclerosis.
People try to oversimplify things as statin = good or statin = bad. That's bullshite, they are a tool in the toolbox. That tool seems like a great tool for someone who is at real risk of major heart issues before 40.
He could also go pay for a calcium artery scan and get scared by the amount of calcium already in his arteries.
At this point in his life, he should make drastic changes including strong consideration to a statin. If his other life changes materialize, he can try to get off said statin assuming his cholesterol and other bloodwork remains good.
Statins are massively over prescribed and pushed by doctors at the first sign of high cholestorol; however, given his family history he is a PRIME CANDIDATE. He should do everything to lower his risk of atherosclerosis.
People try to oversimplify things as statin = good or statin = bad. That's bullshite, they are a tool in the toolbox. That tool seems like a great tool for someone who is at real risk of major heart issues before 40.
He could also go pay for a calcium artery scan and get scared by the amount of calcium already in his arteries.
Posted on 9/2/20 at 12:24 pm to Duck
OP, what was your father and grandfathers height and build?
All of you guys appear to be obese.
While family history matters....if you guys are all having heart attacks from poor diets and lack of exercise then the only genetic consideration I would look at is the mental aspect of what is acceptable to yall.
That comes off harsh, I just don't want you to think you are screwed because your other family members suffered heart attacks.
All of you guys appear to be obese.
While family history matters....if you guys are all having heart attacks from poor diets and lack of exercise then the only genetic consideration I would look at is the mental aspect of what is acceptable to yall.
That comes off harsh, I just don't want you to think you are screwed because your other family members suffered heart attacks.
This post was edited on 9/2/20 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 9/2/20 at 12:38 pm to plaric
Good post. My point is that it is a significant factor in how serious you should evaluate statins or how serious you should try to course correct.
We are all going to die sometime and of something, but family history can help show where you are most at risk of dieing. At that point it is your decision to try to take corrective action to reduce that risk as best you can or just accept it. There isn't a right/wrong. The point I was trying to make is given the circumstances, it seems like atherosclerosis is a significant risk for him (not OP, but Doug-H).
If the only risk factor was high cholesterol and not all three of: high cholesterol, overweight, & significant family history at a young age. I could understand the anti-statin sentiment and would entirely agree with it.
We are all going to die sometime and of something, but family history can help show where you are most at risk of dieing. At that point it is your decision to try to take corrective action to reduce that risk as best you can or just accept it. There isn't a right/wrong. The point I was trying to make is given the circumstances, it seems like atherosclerosis is a significant risk for him (not OP, but Doug-H).
If the only risk factor was high cholesterol and not all three of: high cholesterol, overweight, & significant family history at a young age. I could understand the anti-statin sentiment and would entirely agree with it.
This post was edited on 9/2/20 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 9/2/20 at 1:30 pm to TDsngumbo
Need to know:
Age
Weight
Height
What does your diet look like?
What does your exercise routine look like?
Everyone can give you magic pills or diet XYZ but without that pertinent info we could be trying to cram fish oil down your throat when all you need is some exercise and diet tweaks.
Age
Weight
Height
What does your diet look like?
What does your exercise routine look like?
Everyone can give you magic pills or diet XYZ but without that pertinent info we could be trying to cram fish oil down your throat when all you need is some exercise and diet tweaks.
This post was edited on 9/2/20 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 9/2/20 at 3:11 pm to LSUfan20005
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There is significant discussion regarding dementia risks linked to statin usage. If you Google this, you'll get tons of results ranging from very interesting and cautionary to straight up conspiracy. I'll just give a real study as an intro: Lots of Detail
Okay
This is a message board and I come here for the ease of use and hope that someone can break it all down for me to understand.
A link with a ton of scientific jargon does not do that.
Does it make sense to you? If so, please translate for the message board posters that are not scientists.
For starters;
Of the people who use statins, what percentage develop dementia?
Posted on 9/2/20 at 3:18 pm to LSUAlum2001
Walking for exercise is great for reducing cholesterol. Among other benefits.
Posted on 9/2/20 at 3:23 pm to SlidellCajun
I just saw that low LDL is associated with depression and low cholesterol in general is associated with higher suicide risk.
That is wild.
That is wild.
Posted on 9/2/20 at 3:51 pm to TDsngumbo
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My cholesterol was also a tad high, although lower than last time.
Utterly useless info.
Your trigs are high just objectively.
What's your HDL?
I assume your doc didn't bother doing an NMR?
Posted on 9/2/20 at 4:28 pm to TDsngumbo
I take red yeast rice to get my LDL down. I also take a CoQ10 supplement, since red yeast rice can lower that as well if you take it. I also take fish oil.
But I'm only concerned about my LDL, as my HDL, triglycerides, and fasting blood glucose are all in the normal range.
I also eat a ton of oats and berries.
But I'm only concerned about my LDL, as my HDL, triglycerides, and fasting blood glucose are all in the normal range.
I also eat a ton of oats and berries.
This post was edited on 9/2/20 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 9/2/20 at 5:23 pm to Ted_Stryker
That LDL is there to fight inflammation and is neuroprotective.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:30 am to McLemore
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That LDL is there to fight inflammation and is neuroprotective.
Yes, you are right. But I don't need an LDL level of 177 to have anti-inflammatory and neuroprotective properties. With family history of heart disease, I can get it much lower and still have those benefits.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 8:29 pm to FatMan
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Google or watch YouTube for Dave Feldman. He has cholesterol hacks to cheat tests. Like anything else in your body, lipid production is a closed loop system.
Dave's website
OP: Your main concern should be your TG/HDL ratio. Anything under 2 is good, anything under 4 is "ok". Your LDL is calculate the majority of the time unless you requested a direct measurement. Still, a high Total Cholesterol number with a TG/HDL ration under 1 means your LDL particle size is golden.
There is so much bullshite around cholesterol
Posted on 9/4/20 at 9:04 am to Mo Jeaux
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Meat is not the enemy.
Processed meat is terrible for you. Unprocessed meat is fine.
The key to OP is lower carb intake and cut out all of the junk food. I dropped my levels from borderline diabetic to middle range perfect, and dropped 40 pounds, with diet and exercise. It isn't mystical science. You already know the solution. You just have to live it.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 2:52 pm to trident
I had a rare stroke in my 40's. It was determined that my cholesterol was around 250.
I now take a statin, which keeps my cholesterol around 125-130. Of course, running 4-5 days a week helps tremendously as well.
Regarding fish oil, my doc took me off fish oil. States studies in the medical community provide no support for fish oil being of benefit.
I now take a statin, which keeps my cholesterol around 125-130. Of course, running 4-5 days a week helps tremendously as well.
Regarding fish oil, my doc took me off fish oil. States studies in the medical community provide no support for fish oil being of benefit.
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