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Owning a boat vs charter
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:50 pm
I've always been a charter guy. But with my kids starting to grow up (13,11,6), I'm feeling buying a boat more and more. I'm probably the type to go fishing about once a month, so I know a charter is still probably the way to go, but I'd love to just have the flexibility to take the wife and 3 kids whenever I want and however long I want. How far off am I on my estimates here on boat ownership costs. I'd probably store or rent a slip in hopedale/shell beach.
Buy Boat+gear: ~20-50k
Rent slip: $300/month
Annual maintenance: ~$2k/yr+
Gas+bait for a day: $150
In fact, just writing this out makes me think that owning a boat is really not worth it unless you fish every week.
Buy Boat+gear: ~20-50k
Rent slip: $300/month
Annual maintenance: ~$2k/yr+
Gas+bait for a day: $150
In fact, just writing this out makes me think that owning a boat is really not worth it unless you fish every week.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:50 pm to saz_1
quote:
Buy Boat+gear: ~20-50k
Rent slip: $300/month
Annual maintenance: ~$2k/yr+
Gas+bait for a day: $150
Now multiply by 3.5 to get the real number.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:51 pm to saz_1
Also factor you’ll get (at least some) money back when (If) you sell the boat
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:54 pm to saz_1
just be upfront and selective with your captains. I've had too many experiences where captains think they are taking out morons and put out little effort into the day. try to keep fuel expenses minimal, hardly want to change rigs for different conditions etc.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:55 pm to saz_1
Also consider the non-monetary aggravation of dealing with all maintenance yourself. Got a weird wiring problem that's unexplainable? Prepare to spend two weeks on the internet trying to figure it out before finally hauling it out of the slip, then letting it sit at the repair shop for a month, watching everyone else post pictures of their fun boats on the internet.
My rule is if it's a small boat, like a jonboat, own it all day, I own two!
If it's a big boat, rent/charter/make friends until I retire and have nothing better to do except own a boat and live on the coast/lake where I would use it more than once a week.
Let the downvotes rain down upon me.
My rule is if it's a small boat, like a jonboat, own it all day, I own two!
If it's a big boat, rent/charter/make friends until I retire and have nothing better to do except own a boat and live on the coast/lake where I would use it more than once a week.
Let the downvotes rain down upon me.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 2:32 pm to saz_1
You're definitely not considering getting your principle (or close to it) back if you decide to sell it down the road. I've owned 3 boats over the past decade and have sold all above my original investment. Now you have to do your research and wait on the right rig to come available that gets you the most value for your money for that to work. You can't just go to a dealer, pay a premium, and get upside down.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 2:40 pm to saz_1
To me owning a boat is a hobby in itself. Charter's are great but going out on your own, finding the fish, going when you want etc is worth the price of admission.
For the most part owning a boat never makes financial sense. But i enjoy most aspects involved with it.
For the most part owning a boat never makes financial sense. But i enjoy most aspects involved with it.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 2:47 pm to saz_1
I've own/owned several boats. We have 4 at the camp now. One mud boat, a jon boat, a pontoon, and a deep v. Every single one has something "wrong" with it. None are major issues to keep them from running, but nonetheless it's a pain in the arse. Boats in general are a pain in the arse unless you can run them often enough to keep everything fresh. I just sold a 17' cc because I got tired of dealing with the finicky two stroke. The guy that bought it lives on the river and runs it daily with zero issues. If you can run them regularly they tend to stay in better operating condition - IMO anyway.
I say all that, but nothing better than being on the water in your own boat with your own rules.
I say all that, but nothing better than being on the water in your own boat with your own rules.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 2:50 pm to saz_1
IF, It F***s, Floats or Flys it’s almost always cheaper to rent it.
My guys Friday sold their boats because they were always down when they wanted to use them. Find a good guide and buy x # of trips from him upfront and become his annual annuity. He will treat you like the golden goose which in turn will make everyone happy.
My guys Friday sold their boats because they were always down when they wanted to use them. Find a good guide and buy x # of trips from him upfront and become his annual annuity. He will treat you like the golden goose which in turn will make everyone happy.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 3:28 pm to saz_1
I've been in that boat before(pun intended). I always come back to it being cost prohibitive when I can only really fish 15-20 times year to own a bay boat. Haven't owned a boat in 2-3 years and have zero regrets.
I go with a guide on average 6 times a year, make a few trips w/ friends in their boats, and go play in my kayak occasionally. Way cheaper and much less of a pain in the arse.
If you can fish once a week and have a place on the water, then owning a boat would be a must. Frick trailering a bay boat every time you fish.
I go with a guide on average 6 times a year, make a few trips w/ friends in their boats, and go play in my kayak occasionally. Way cheaper and much less of a pain in the arse.
If you can fish once a week and have a place on the water, then owning a boat would be a must. Frick trailering a bay boat every time you fish.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 4:03 pm to saz_1
quote:
But with my kids starting to grow up (13,11,6)
All boys? Sure get a boat.
Any girls? They won't want to be fishing with you in a year or two.
I made the mistake of getting a boat that could fit all 5 of us comfortably. 90% of the time it was me alone or with one kid. So I downsized. Something easy to fish the marsh that was pretty cheap second hand.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 4:34 pm to saz_1
quote:- Low by half
Gas+bait for a day: $150
quote:- Probably high by $1500' depending on the boat though.
Annual maintenance: ~$2k/yr+
The slip rent is probably low also but again it all has to do with location.
If you enjoy the charter experience there is no comparison from a cost stand point....it take a lot of charters to pay for a boat alone.....but the timing is the thing....hard to go on a charter at a moments notice or go for a few hours when you have the opportunity....plus, the difference in satisfaction of doing it yourself is the draw for me...I will do charters but I generally stay away from them because I can catch just as many fish and do so on my own knowledge and experience...the only time I do any charters now is offshore because I do not have access to an area which would make sense for me to own an offshore boat but, if I was in a decent part of the world instead of the panhandle of British Columbia (Washington State) and there was anything offshore here worth catching other than Salmon and Halibut (to be fair there is some Tuna to be caught but billfish are unheard of) I would own an offshore boat....If I were less than 8 hours from the gulf or the gulf stream I would own an offshore boat and would not think about it for more time than it took to find the right one and get it ready for fishing. I don't care for chartering....
Posted on 6/2/20 at 4:56 pm to saz_1
quote:
In fact, just writing this out makes me think that owning a boat is really not worth it unless you fish every week.
Most people don't go 52 times a year....If you can't go about 30 times you just ain't that into fishing. If I were in y'alls neck of the woods I would go at least 100 days a year....not counting the 30-45 days I would spend in a duck or goose blind....a man has to have priorities in life LOL...
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:41 am to saz_1
Is my boat worth the note I pay every month? Probably not, but having the freedom to hookup and go fishing or pulling the kids in the tube whenever I feel like it is freeing to me.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:39 pm to saz_1
Remember, if it flies, floats, or fricks it’s cheaper to rent.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:19 pm to saz_1
well for what its worth, I have a good friend wanting to do the opposite. He wants to sell his boat and just hire charters. Doesn't use boat enough to justify slip, maintenance, etc.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 5:34 pm to saz_1
Charter until the boat market goes down.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 5:36 pm to saz_1
If you have to ask the question you already have the answer.
I couldn’t imagine the day I didn’t have a boat. I fish a lot at times, others not so much. My truck stays hooked to my boat 90% of the time, batteries charged, gassed up. All I need is decent weather, an itch to scratch.
I couldn’t imagine the day I didn’t have a boat. I fish a lot at times, others not so much. My truck stays hooked to my boat 90% of the time, batteries charged, gassed up. All I need is decent weather, an itch to scratch.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 6:10 pm to saz_1
It’s worth it if you enjoy getting away and being on the water.
That being said. Something seems to always go wrong. Go ahead and triple your budget for repairs.
That being said. Something seems to always go wrong. Go ahead and triple your budget for repairs.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 7:32 pm to saz_1
Bill fishing charters are boring to me. Everyone lets the deck hands pitch the baits or set the hook and then you get handed a rod with a hooked fish. That is not fishing. The captain and mate caught that fish period.
Part of the fun is shopping for tackle, rigging it, then seeing it all come together in that magic moment.
Part of the fun is shopping for tackle, rigging it, then seeing it all come together in that magic moment.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 7:33 pm
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