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re: Overturned "scoop and score" for OSU...what are the thoughts?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:19 am to Awlunz Tiger
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:19 am to Awlunz Tiger
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what are the thoughts?
That the play in question happened in the third quarter and the Buckeyes still had an opportunity to win. They drove all the way down the field and their Heisman finalist QB threw an interception in the endzone, so let’s not act like that play is the reason Clemson is moving on and Ohio State isn’t.
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:21 am to Awlunz Tiger
What the hell is football move, we just startyed hearing that term this year, i think it was a bad call, If you catch it and take 2 or 3 steps it's complete
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:22 am to Awlunz Tiger
Judgement call that would have made either side unhappy with the result, IMO. Sometimes these happen. This is little solace to OSU, but they did get the ball back and scored. It was them that decided not to go for two point conversion. It was their defense that did not stop Clemson at the end. The replay call was not the only reason they lost!
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:30 am to Awlunz Tiger
LSU learned what we already know
SEC refs suck
SEC refs suck
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:40 am to Awlunz Tiger
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what are the thoughts?
I learned that as long as you just keep running the wrong way you can never fumble. You can take a million steps, but if you don’t turn and run, it’s not a football move.
By the way, anyone who actually thinks refs made the right call is an idiot. Dude caught the ball and took four steps. Ref that overturned it was drunk.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:44 am to tigeroarz1
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Imagine if he caught the ball near the sideline and the ball landed out of bounds. They would have definitely called it incomplete because he didn’t finish the catch.
You don’t need to finish the catch if you have the ball secure and take four fricking steps. Finishing the catch is about if you are going to the ground while making the catch.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:44 am to John_V
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tucking the ball
He wasn't able to tuck the ball
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:46 am to ole man
I think the refs were looking for the WR to tuck the ball and turn up field or dive forward, which he did not quite do. He did have the ball firmly in his hands with three toe touches to the turf (left, right, left), and he tries to tuck it and run, but Okudah prevents him from tucking it and, instead, pokes the ball out. I think you could interpret the second and third toe taps as taking a step with the ball firmly in the receiver's hands, which could constitute a football move, and it was called on the field as a catch and fumble, so there needed to be conclusive video evidence that the wrong call was made on the field. I can understand why nobody but the Clemson fans are happy about the call. On the other hand, I remember when I first saw the play that I didn't think it was a catch, so, either way, this was going to be a close call where judgment/bias comes into play. It's not the reason tOSU lost the game, though. They gave that game away with repeated mistakes. LINK
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:50 am to uway
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He didn't turn upfield at all
This makes zero sense. So if you run any kind of comeback route, you can catch the ball and just keep running in the wrong direction, and it’s not a catch because you didn’t turn upfield? Let’s use our brains here people.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:52 am to GeauxTigahs5
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I think it was a catch then forward momentum was stopped.
Whistle never blew. So the "fwd momentum stopped" wouldn't be an option.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:53 am to tigereye58
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It was very similar to Jefferson’s in our game.
It really wasn't, though. Jefferson never had control of the ball. The pla yin question was a matter of how long he had control.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:02 am to Good Times
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I guess those catches while holding the ball on your helmet, or around the defenders head are not catches either.
Yeah, I was gonna mention when guys catch a ball with their arms around the defender and pin it to the defenders back. Guess that’s not really a catch cause ball didn’t get tucked.
The amount of stupidity in this thread is something to behold. On every level of football, if you have the ball in your hands and it’s not moving, and you take three to four steps, that’s a catch. Guys catch balls all the fricking time without ever tucking it.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:21 am to landrywasbeast30
This in depth writeup by a former ref that changed my opinion on the call. This guy isn't loyal to the refs or anything like that. Most of his posts are against the refs.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:37 am to Awlunz Tiger
It's best to strike the Heisman pose after a catch. This is a generally accepted football move and will ensure the refs know you made a completion.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:44 am to Awlunz Tiger
he had the ball but wasnt secure, by the time he secured it he got hit and it came out
the issue was where he never had control of the ball throughout and thats why incomplete
in real time i said fumble as well but in replay with the camera view to see the ball, it was moving the whole time and was never secured
the issue was where he never had control of the ball throughout and thats why incomplete
in real time i said fumble as well but in replay with the camera view to see the ball, it was moving the whole time and was never secured
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:46 am to Awlunz Tiger
SEC Refs doin' their thing
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:50 am to CDawson
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So if you never tuck it away and carry it like a loaf of bread does that mean you can’t fumble?
I agree this is messed up. If this had been on the goal line they would have said he broke the plane and gave him a touchdown.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:54 am to Awlunz Tiger
Same receiver caught the 2-point conversion in the back of the end zone with extended arms — had the ball flipped out of his hands after going through end zone — and they called it a catch.
One way or another, one of those calls was wrong ... I’d argue the scoop and score should have been ruled a catch and fumble.
One way or another, one of those calls was wrong ... I’d argue the scoop and score should have been ruled a catch and fumble.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:59 am to John_V
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From what I've heard the only action that constitutes a catch is making a "football move". Steps, tucking the ball, none of it apparently matters until you try to juke, cut, stiff arm, etc...
IMHO this football move stuff makes little sense. These guys are playing football, everything they do is a “football move”.
The guy caught the ball and lost it when he was it exactly like the A&M tight end was.
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