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This is why we can't have nice things. Comcast kills stringify

Posted on 4/8/19 at 6:58 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78372 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 6:58 pm
frick everyone. First ifttt now stringify.

I'm about done with the home automation nonsense. Every time I start to enjoy a new technology someone comes along and screws it up.

Thanks Comcast

I hate you a little more today than I did yesterday and little less today than I will tomorrow

so long stringify

quote:

The Stringify app will vanish from the Play Store today, but it will continue working through the end of June. Comcast will delete all user data in the app when it disables the service at that time.



This post was edited on 4/8/19 at 7:00 pm
Posted by ellunchboxo
Gtown
Member since Feb 2009
18825 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 7:07 pm to
Phone alter?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22211 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 8:19 pm to
What happened to ifttt
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39607 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 9:09 pm to
Ya saw that. I had just downloaded it a few days ago to do some sensor triggers.

Oh well.
Posted by mctiger1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3693 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 9:29 pm to
You should have just switched to smartthings.

What did you need stringify for? Never found a need for it.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39607 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 9:44 pm to
I couldn't quite get IFTTT to do what I wanted without having to try to write some JavaScript.

Namely, if any door sensor is triggered between 11pm and 6am, turn on master lights then trigger IFTTT to turn up my phone volume and call phone.

Probably a simpler way to do it but has been working reliably the last few days.

IFTTT is hit and miss for me. Works well with my GogoGate2 but my simple "Send text to my wife when I'm near daycare" just suddenly went from working almost immediately to shooting it off an hour or two later
This post was edited on 4/8/19 at 9:47 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78372 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 10:28 pm to
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What did you need stringify for? Never found a need for it.


lots of things but my stringify craiglist notifications beat IFTTT by a solid 30 minutes or more meaning i pretty much have dibs on anything posted on there before anyone else sees it
This post was edited on 4/8/19 at 10:30 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78372 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

IFTTT is hit and miss for me. Works well with my GogoGate2 but my simple "Send text to my wife when I'm near daycare" just suddenly went from working almost immediately to shooting it off an hour or two later



IFTTT is shite now. not sure what happened but half of my hue routines fail to trigger or worse only one light will change color. WTF. i've even deleted the routine & created a new one and same thing.

frick all this home automation crap.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28712 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:16 am to
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frick all this home automation crap.

No no, frick all this relying on 3rd party services that might go away tomorrow crap.


It takes more effort in most cases (and in some cases a LOT more effort), but I highly recommend using open source software whenever possible in your home automation setup. Run as many services on YOUR hardware as you can. And make as much of your hardware YOURS as you can. That means don't buy hubs that you can't upgrade the hardware/software yourself. Build your own hub with an RPi, HomeAssistant, and whatever wireless dongles you need. Don't buy lights, sensors, or other IoT items that you can't integrate with HomeAssistant (or other open source software). Hell, make your own sensors.



The current phase of commercial IoT stuff focuses on making things easy for the masses. That's important, but it usually comes at the expense of your setup is not YOUR setup. The open source hardware and software community has some catching up to do as far as ease of use and setup, but you can't beat the fact that your stuff is going to work until it physically breaks, in which case you know enough about it to fix it. It's not just going to stop working because some bean counter decided it's not profitable.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78372 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 12:43 am to
i dont disagree. i hate wifi and APIs for HA. i was on the zwave train from day 1 but the biggest advantage seems to be the one fricked up the most...local control.

sure alexa is great to tell her what to do but both wink and ST failed to deliver local control of zwave & zigbee. nobody needs a cloud for an on/off switch command.

i know about HA and raspberry pie zwave dongles but i'm too old to sit down & reprogram 100+ smart devices. i hoped and prayed a decent hub would appear that would prioritize local control but its the opposite..everybody wants alexa convenience and they're willing to buy nothing but wifi-crap so they can get it.

its cute that alexa tells me my doors are unlocked at night and offers to lock them for me..but its a good 10 second count at a minimum before i hear them locking.

it sucks. google and amazon are going to win here and of course the cloud is the basis for everything they do so frick the consumer. lets all go buy $15 wifi bulbs now.


eta i was digging stringify because it did allow you to connect websites to lightbulbs and garage doors and weather reports & shite but now even that is fricked. seriously disappointed in where we are 5 years after all this shite was supposed to be taking off.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 12:46 am
Posted by mchias1
Member since Dec 2009
809 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 5:28 am to
Cad check out hubitat. It's a hub based system like smart things that is local control. It has built in support for zwave and zigbee.



Or along what Teddy was talking about with home assistant. You have a plex server running, install a VM of home assistant on it and test it out.

download and install VMware workstation player.
install Home assistant with this https://www.home-assistant.io/hassio/installation/ (the VMDK file)
you can keep your wink running as is. home assistant integrates with it: wink integration
your philips hue will also LINK

i'd leave all your stuff as is, but try home assistant and you can move your code over slowly.

i recommend using Node Red to program automations. it's really easy.
follow these guys on youtube for help: digiblur, drzzzs, and the hook up
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 7:08 am
Posted by GreatBrandino
Somewhere
Member since Nov 2008
561 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:44 am to
I agree, stingify allowed actions reliable on weather conditions (if temp drops below freezing activate heat lamp, if it rains disable sprinklers, etc...). I haven't been able to accomplish similar automations with anything else.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:00 am to
My Control4 works just fine.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78372 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 8:36 am to
quote:

My Control4 works just fine.



quote:

"Everything is becoming smart and we're uniquely positioned to be able to orchestrate all of those devices that are coming into the home," Control4 Chief Financial Officer Mark Novakovich told Investor's Business Daily. "What we're not is a $300 DIY (do-it-yourself) solution. We think of our products more as infrastructure for the home, things that people put into their houses and expect to last."

Control4's business can be broken down into four customer segments: luxury, premium, value and basic, he said.

Luxury projects cost $25,000 and above and make up 13% of the projects Control4 does, Novakovich said.

Premium projects cost $10,000 to $25,000 and account for about 33% of Control4's projects.

Value projects cost less than $10,000 and account for 26% or 27% of the company's projects, he said.


Jesus Christ for those prices I hope it doesn't have an outage for the next 50 years! Light switches and door sensors aren't rocket science unless you're an installer.


eta CFO is wrong, no DIY hub costs anything close to $300.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 8:38 am
Posted by Phone
Member since Apr 2019
70 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 8:45 am to
Lol

I decided never to put in internet based lights, water etc for exactly this reason
I’m also not too lazy to get up to do things
The cost of WiFi lightbulbs is lol
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40174 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 8:56 am to
CAD you are my favorite angry tech guy.

Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78372 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 8:56 am to
quote:

The cost of WiFi lightbulbs is lol

how much do you think they cost?
Posted by Phone
Member since Apr 2019
70 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 8:58 am to
Significantly more than non WiFi
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78372 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:01 am to
quote:

Significantly more than non WiFi

ok lets try this again. what do you generally pay for a non-smart LED bulb?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40174 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:04 am to
arent they like 5 bucks at wal mart?
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