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re: Article for the "it's scheme" crowd
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:01 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:01 pm to Lester Earl
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To think there is some simple scheme around it is laughable.
Throw short quick passes for 4 quarters!!!!! Bam!!! Done. That’s it!
I mean... LSU could have at least tried a hard-count once in a while to keep the DL honest. Is that too complicated? I'm sorry, it's hard to keep track of what "football expert" like you knows.
As for quick passes... I've never said that. I'm more in favor of utilizing zone-blocking concepts to neutralize 'Bama's 2-gap DL system.
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Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:02 pm to Lester Earl
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Dude you realize Ark & Tenn & usl games were all over after the 1st Q right?
Not every game is the same. Stop being so basic.
Ok. A&M, Mizzou and UT all scored in the 1st quarter. What else you got?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:02 pm to Robbytiger
Man....I have to say. That's on coaching more than anything. Two years in a row and our players are not learning schemes?
Unless you are saying something about our players...
Are you saying we're recruiting dumb players?
What are you saying?
Unless you are saying something about our players...
Are you saying we're recruiting dumb players?
What are you saying?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:11 pm to Lester Earl
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And backup lineman are backups for a reason. Either cause they are young or they just aren’t good. A team’s true starting 5 is going to be better than a team with 3 backups playing. Comparing to other teams is stupid. That being said being 7-2 like the article says is fricking amazing.
I agree, they are back ups for a reason.
SO, would you make adjustments or keep the status quo?
SE has no made no major adjustments and even worse no in game adjustments.
What would LESTER do?
Also, what major differences in the offense do you see from 2016 when SE took over to 2018?
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:12 pm to Robbytiger
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Yeah maybe Ensiminger had the wrong scheme...I grant that. But, there is no way he could adjust to anything differently because the players he has to work with on the offensive line can not adapt to any other scheme
It's not just that but some people are so simpleminded that they must believe that the coordinator has the offense crowded around him drawing plays in the dirt. I wouldn't doubt that Steve was just as surprised as everyone else that Bama's defense ran through LSU'S offensive line like butter. The only unit on the team that needs continuity and time to play together is the offensive line. This hasn't happened at all this year. The line was never going to be anything but average. Now you start pulling and plugging and you've maxed out your depth. Does anyone here really want to argue that this line is good? There are bright spots but for the most part it's been abysmal.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:13 pm to bstew3006
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I agree, they are back ups for a reason.
SO, would you make adjustments or keep the status quo?
SE has no made no major adjustments and even worse in game adjustments.
What would LESTER do?
Probably call a play-action 1 WR route from his own 3yd line with an OL he knows sucks.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:13 pm to abellsujr
Yes. That is what I’m saying.....
Stop just recruiting by only athletic skills alone...see if these guys have the capacity to play the position...
I think the Canada/coach O butting heads things was a cover for Canada had a hard time teaching the line the concepts it needed to run his scheme...
I also think coach O and Canada both l came to an agreement to experiment by simplifying the offense and that didn’t work either...and when Coach O was called out on it, he took the blame....
Stop just recruiting by only athletic skills alone...see if these guys have the capacity to play the position...
I think the Canada/coach O butting heads things was a cover for Canada had a hard time teaching the line the concepts it needed to run his scheme...
I also think coach O and Canada both l came to an agreement to experiment by simplifying the offense and that didn’t work either...and when Coach O was called out on it, he took the blame....
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:15 pm to bencoleman
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Does anyone here really want to argue that this line is good? There are bright spots but for the most part it's been abysmal.
No shite. It was obvious against SELU in game 2. Which makes it extra maddening that the offensive staff kept trying the same shite over and over. It's the scheme. If they need an NFL OL to run it then it's not a good fricking scheme. How is it that hard to understand?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:17 pm to bencoleman
quote:When you have a 104th offense, lots of things probably contribute to that. I think the injuries alone are enough to say that our oline is in rough shape atm.
Does anyone here really want to argue that this line is good?
Again, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Lots of work to be done.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:19 pm to MightyYat
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cheme. If they need an NFL OL to run it then it's not a good fricking scheme. How is it that hard to understand
They're extremely limited in what they can due to lack of depth. How is that so hard for you to understand?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:20 pm to bencoleman
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Does anyone here really want to argue that this line is good?
No, and Ensminger isn't a good enough OC to offset that. That's what this is all about. We need a better offensive line AND a better OC.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:22 pm to Robbytiger
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I think the Canada/coach O butting heads things was a cover for Canada had a hard time teaching the line the concepts it needed to run his scheme... I also think coach O and Canada both l came to an agreement to experiment by simplifying the offense and that didn’t work either...and when Coach O was called out on it, he took the blame....
And Canada's O outgained Alabama last year and scored points... We didn't run the wildcat once last week.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:28 pm to bencoleman
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I wouldn't doubt that Steve was just as surprised as everyone else that Bama's defense ran through LSU'S offensive line like butter
Why would he be surprised? It's happened all year.
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line was never going to be anything but average
Yet, he was surprised by the oline play?
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Now you start pulling and plugging and you've maxed out your depth
Which again addresses how would he be surprised? Not only that, never adjust his attack all year?
OCs worth their weight will adjust throughout the year and adjust through out the game. He has failed at both.
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simpleminded that they must believe that the coordinator has the offense crowded around him drawing plays in the dirt
Simpleminded would be keeping the status quo all year, which is an old school coaching mentality. Simpleminded would be people believing the offense can only run 15-25 plays.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 3:14 pm to CoastTrashTiger
yeah you're right about being able to scheme around an overmatched OL, that is why everybody is able to scheme a victory against Alabama every year. Dude if that were the case the best teams would be the ones with coaches that could draw up the best plays, but consistently it is the teams with the best players that execute the best are consistently National Champions. There was zero way to scheme a victory against Bama last week and if you think so, you must be the type of person that buys how to make millions working from home or pyramid scheme themed books.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 5:05 pm to bstew3006
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bstew3006
Quick while you have all of the answers text Ed. I'm sure that he'll be delighted to bring you in to turn this stale and overmatched offense into a monster modern dominant crew overnight.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 7:58 pm to Buda
If talent is all that matters then why did we lose to Troy last year?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:04 pm to Buda
We have 6 TD passes after 9 games. We are on the level of option teams. Open your eyes. We are ranked in the 100s in offense.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:06 pm to Srobi14
Does it take a genius to score a point in 3 tries? Coach E has has 3 shots as play caller to score and has scored nothing.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:06 pm to Buda
Don’t bring rationale thought in here. This group only wants to hate Coach O. Record be damned.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:08 pm to abellsujr
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If you think we could not be more productive with a better scheme, then you're blind.
It's not hard to be more productive than zero points and 12 yards rushing. Our o-line got destroyed, but our scheme and play calling also sucked, making it even harder for our offense.
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