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re: General John Kelly's Statement: Some Reflection.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:45 am to bencoleman
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:45 am to bencoleman
quote:
Someone lacking empathy wouldn't have called in the first place
Yeah that part was silly because Kelly specifically said that Trump really wanted to call which clearly was motivated by feelings of empathy
The problem Trump or any other person has in that situation is that anything short of perfection runs the risk of doing more harm than good.
I pointed out earlier a day or so ago that I served on a notification team in 2004.
It honestly is fairly horrible and there really is nothing you can do to make it not horrible
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:46 am to Knight of Old
quote:
s if you and the rest of your blood-lusting ilk would not then have stitched a narrative out of whole cloth about how inept and unfeeling your President was for not calling the families...
You might want to read my comments yesterday. I did none of this. Don’t lump me in with the few nut cases, at least on this one . I’ve already said his comments were likely taken out of context. And I already called the cowgirl out.
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 6:47 am
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:47 am to LSUTANGERINE
quote:I keep trying to tell people on this board that I will take the time to read and double check
Thanks. We are good, at least until next time. Lol
I realize a significant number of people on this board simply play a character but with me what you see is what you generally get
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:47 am to ShortyRob
Gracias. I just canceled my order at sonic.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:49 am to Snakebucket
quote:
Taken out of contest!!!
Lol. I'll fix it.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:50 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:
The most sensible post I have seen in the past two days on this topic.
Not really. He says this first
quote:then argues against himself with this
I do believe Trump was taken out of contest to one extent or another
quote:.
but I also wouldn't be surprised if he said some of the wrong things and came off as insensitive.
I see that as an argument of the second quote against the argument of the first quote. That's the definition of wishy-washy in my book.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:52 am to ShortyRob
quote:
You were agreeing with the idea that advice to not call was due to it being Trump.
The advice would have been given to any president therefore you are incorrect
I have to not take this as a good assumption.
I think it is evident that Trump's persona is not geared toward eloquence, or expressing deep feelings with empathy. He is an attack dog.
I have no doubt that his 'heart was in the right place' - but I do not doubt that he was operating in an arena that he is manifestly not qualified for. Especially when he is interacting with a probably political foe.
I don't necessarily believe that Kelly would have given that advice to Obama - if noting else, Obama would be capable of being soothing and masterful in projecting genuine empathy - even if he thought the opposite.
I think it was foolish for Trump to put himself in that position - knowing there is a predatory MSM out there and a vile DEMOCRAT party who are in cahoots with each other to purposefully misinterpret anything he said.
He would have certainly been attacked by the MSM/DEM cabal had he not made the calls - but then he could have responded from his platform of strength = he could have said "It is sad that I could not call to offer my condolences, but I know that you in the media would have looked for any word out of place to attack me with - and that would not have been fair to a grieving family. YOU are the reason normal intercourse can no longer take place in America - and you are demonstrating it NOW with your attack on ME rather than allowing grieving families even a moment of sorrow"
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:52 am to LSUTANGERINE
quote:
Gracias. I just canceled my order at sonic.
I still don't know what this Sonic thing is about but I guess it's reference the OT LOL.
But that sucks cuz I like Sonic. LOL
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:54 am to LSUTANGERINE
quote:Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Don’t lump me in with the few nut cases
You'll have to work harder than that to convince me there's a foundation of something other than sand under the unrelenting ad hominem attacks brought by opposition to this POTUS...
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:58 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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Of course you would. It’s what Trumpkins do.
Someone's still got a bad case of the sandy vag from last November. You might want to see your OB/GYN about that, Shirley.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:59 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:
I see that as an argument of the second quote against the argument of the first quote.
I am pretty good at reading the intent and context of a message and ignoring any semantic or grammatical imperfections.
I am confident that what he intended to express was something I agree with wholeheartedly.
to wit - I believe Trump was taken out of context. I also believe that Trump probably made it easy to be taken out of context.
I think that is the sentiment of the sentence you are referencing.
"Wishy-washy" is not how I would characterize it - I feel it was straightforward.
But thanks for the response - I am alway open to reexamining my own verbiage and understanding.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 7:03 am to ShortyRob
quote:
I still don't know what this Sonic thing is about but I guess it's reference the OT LOL.
I have fallen into that trap also
I tried to act like I was 'just as hip as the next guy' and tossed out an invitation to 'settle this at Sonic' - and the guy thought I really wanted to FIGHT with him.
So I don't understand all the nuances - and henceforth I will just rely on the King's English as taught to me in 1954 by the sainted Mrs. Pollard. I sure don[t want a gang at Sonic waiting for me to show up
Posted on 10/20/17 at 7:03 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:No one was asking him about phone calls. He brought it up in a holier than thou moment.
And if Trump hadn't made the call then the media would have been all up in his face about having no compassion and that would be the lie you would be running with this morning.
The question was about little to no comment on what happened in Nigeria altogether and why Trump had hardly a mention of them on Twitter, press conferences, etc.
The whole issue of phone calls were brought up in the last few years by righties and Russian trolls. Asking about calls to police officers, Steinle family, etc.
Thinking over the last century where telephones were fairly common, about half of the years involved so many deaths that it would be impossible to call. As Kelly said, the phone call from the President isn't even important to survivors in the grand scheme of things.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 7:13 am to mmcgrath
quote:
The whole issue of phone calls were brought up in the last few years by righties and Russian trolls. Asking about calls to police officers, Steinle family, etc.
Not aware of this - but in no position to rebut it either.
In this instance, I thought the topic was brought up by the media asking Trump 'why didn't you call? Do you plan to call?"
And of course Trump, being Trump, had to shoot himself in the nutsack again by comparing himself to what past presidents had done. === totally unnecessary and absolutely counterproductive. And surely "unpresidential"
However, the press wanted a confrontation - they want a confrontation over ANYTHING at all to feed their vile maliciousness - this is the entire raison d'être for what passes as "journalism" today.
HOWEVER - I would have liked for my president to have dismissed this 'gotcha poke' this one time and ignored the whole thing.
Alas, he responded like Trump - and won the exchange - but the whole thing lowered the level of dignity which should attach to such an event.
I'd have been content to allow the maddog media a nuanced 'victory' in this instance in exchange for continued dignity of the moment.
But make no mistake - the whole thing is the fault of the MEDIA in their irrational pursuit of something, anything with which to attack Trump.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 7:35 am to cajunangelle
You will eventually learn that white democrats are the worst human beings in our country. They gleefully support a communist cultural takeover of our American values.
For the sake of vote farming, they keep stirring up racial divide. They scream that white people are evil and need to go away, while convincing black people that it's 1840 and they've nothing going for them because all white people (except white democrats) are vile racists.
For the sake of vote farming, they keep stirring up racial divide. They scream that white people are evil and need to go away, while convincing black people that it's 1840 and they've nothing going for them because all white people (except white democrats) are vile racists.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 7:51 am to mmcgrath
mmcgrath, I want to ask you a serious question. Are you really an LSU fan? did you go to LSU and are you from Louisiana? This is a serious question because, I know many LSU fans and none of them are as anti american and left leaning as you. Do you pose as an LSU fan for this message board because it is an LSU site and you want to be excepted? I just really want to know.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:08 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:No. The question was never about any phone calls. That was 100% Trump.
Not aware of this - but in no position to rebut it either.
In this instance, I thought the topic was brought up by the media asking Trump 'why didn't you call? Do you plan to call?"
The press was asking about what happened in Niger and was questioning Trump's willingness to talk about anything but. His need to gloss over and deny anything that is potentially embarrassing is his greatest weakness.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:09 am to WHS
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mmcgrath, I want to ask you a serious question. Are you really an LSU fan? did you go to LSU and are you from Louisiana? This is a serious question because, I know many LSU fans and none of them are as anti american and left leaning as you. Do you pose as an LSU fan for this message board because it is an LSU site and you want to be excepted? I just really want to know.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:14 am to mmcgrath
right back at you Mr. key board warrior aka mmcgrath!
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:17 am to mmcgrath
All politicians gloss over anything embarrassing, look at Hillary and her "wiped it with a rag" comment.
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