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re: Rishard Matthews 'done playing football' if forced to stand for national anthem
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:03 pm to TechDawg2007
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:03 pm to TechDawg2007
If he actually puts his money where is mouth is, I'd be impressed. I'd still massively disagree with him, but it's balls to just give up 10 million.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:04 pm to Chicken
quote:Not only that, the NFL has prevented other teams and players from wearing special patches or from even having a bible verse on their eyeblack.
why is it stupid? How is it different than other workplace rules like dress code?
Once that player is in uniform he represents his employer and the NFL. Many companies forbid political activism in the work place.
WhT they do on their own time is their own business. Just don’t bring that shite to the office.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:07 pm to TechDawg2007
Good riddance. There's certain things I can't do in my workplace, but it pays the bills.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:08 pm to TechDawg2007
Well I will say this about Matthews...His father was a Master Sergeant in the Marines. His brother was also a marine and was killed working as a private defense contractor in Afghanistan after serving for 10 years.
He also donated $75k this year to charitable organizations related to this "movement."
However, if the NFL institutes a rule like the NBA has, he will get fined and will get suspended. If he chooses to retire if the rule is put in place, then he's welcome to it. I'd honestly probably have respect for him if he did. I wouldn't agree with his choice, but I would at least respect his right to express his views and willing to take whatever consequences come from him doing that.
He also donated $75k this year to charitable organizations related to this "movement."
However, if the NFL institutes a rule like the NBA has, he will get fined and will get suspended. If he chooses to retire if the rule is put in place, then he's welcome to it. I'd honestly probably have respect for him if he did. I wouldn't agree with his choice, but I would at least respect his right to express his views and willing to take whatever consequences come from him doing that.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:14 pm to lsufball19
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Well I will say this about Matthews...His father was a Master Sergeant in the Marines. His brother was also a marine and was killed working as a private defense contractor in Afghanistan after serving for 10 years.
Plenty of decent people have stupid relatives. Their actions have no bearing on him.
ETA: He's the stupid relative if that isn't clear.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:14 pm to lsufball19
It would surprise me if the NFL did this. Lots of players can’t stand Goodell and I could see lots of guys refusing to stand just to spite him. You can only suspend so many guys.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:17 pm to TechDawg2007
There are about 10 players in the NFL (give or take a few) that could do this and actually make the owner sweat. Matthews isn't even in the next 5 tiers of players.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:17 pm to lsufball19
Please remember who started this movement and the fact he wore a Fidel Castro shirt to his press conference to discuss oppression in the United States. How can anyone take CK serious when he pulls a stunt like that.
Ask all those Cubans who have risked their lives to escape Castro about oppression.
Ask all those Cubans who have risked their lives to escape Castro about oppression.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:18 pm to TechDawg2007
I said it before and I'll say it again. Many of these talking heads and players are selfish in that they are destroying one of the things minorities are able to find success in.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:19 pm to TechDawg2007
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I'm tired of hearing, 'Stick to sports.' It comes down to right and wrong in this world," Matthews told ESPN last month. "If you see wrong and don't say anything, that's wrong. As minorities, what do you want to happen before we say anything? They tried to have a silent protest, and look what happened. It's your right to stand or sit down. You have that right, that freedom of speech, and you're not allowing that to happen."
I missed his protest about the record high black on black homicide rate in Chicago.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:20 pm to LNCHBOX
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Plenty of decent people have stupid relatives. Their actions have no bearing on him.
ETA: He's the stupid relative if that isn't clear.
What I'm saying is that Matthews as two immediate family members who served, his father being career military. Based on some of the interviews he's had, I don't think he would be doing this if his family members who serve felt disrespected. Again, I don't agree with his decision, but if he's willing to sacrifice his career over it, then he'd be showing that he actually has conviction in his protest. I can respect people who do this without having to agree with them.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:22 pm to lsufball19
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I don't think he would be doing this if his family members who serve felt disrespected.
The questions is, why is this relevant? The impact it is having on the business of the NFL is clear. Whether or not two people in his family feel disrespected is irrelevant to the real issues that are making the NFL consider a rule change.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:22 pm to StupidBinder
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It would surprise me if the NFL did this. Lots of players can’t stand Goodell and I could see lots of guys refusing to stand just to spite him. You can only suspend so many guys.
Let's see what happens in the NBA this season. They already have this rule. It will be interesting what the NBA's response will be if a bunch of high profile players refus to stand. I think that would be a good barometer for the NFL to use.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:24 pm to TechDawg2007
What a dumb bitch. The reason most started protesting was being referred to as sons of bitches. It's sheep mentality. These athletes see one or two guys do it, go nuts on Twitter directed at the president, and they all want to pick a side. And he thinks it's about police brutality.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:24 pm to therick711
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The questions is, why is this relevant?
It's relevant because most people care about their friends and families more so than how they are perceived by people they don't know.
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The impact it is having on the business of the NFL is clear.
Well, then NFL players will see reduced contracts if the owner's business is adversely affected so much that they can't afford to pay players what they are now.
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Whether or not two people in his family feel disrespected is irrelevant to the real issues that are making the NFL consider a rule change.
But they're not irrelevant to Matthews in particular, which is all I'm talking about.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:26 pm to lsufball19
quote:Popovich will have the players sit for anthem when he wants to give them an off night to get around not sitting healthy players.
see what happens in the NBA this season. They already have this rule. It will be interesting what the NBA's response will be if a bunch of high profile players refus to stand. I think that would be a good barometer for the NFL to
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:27 pm to TechDawg2007
And we wouldn't hear from him again until "Broke 2" is filmed.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:35 pm to Chicken
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why is it stupid? How is it different than other workplace rules like dress code?
I'll protest workplace dress code if i find out my tax dollars are being spent to promote it...
Posted on 10/12/17 at 4:35 pm to lsufball19
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But they're not irrelevant to Matthews in particular, which is all I'm talking about.
While your conjecture is possibly true, it isn't relevant, which was my point.
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