re: The rise and fall of Arden Key...

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guys we ned to be a little more fair to key. The shoulder surgery was just in june n.

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I disagree. Nobody forced him to take a leave of absence and it's been reported that he had surgery on his own, not LSUs, timeline with his own non LSU provided surgeon.

He came into camp overweight and out of shape.

He deserves all the criticism he gets and if he's really not into it, just bench him. He's a liability out their right now.

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guys we ned to be a little more fair to key. The shoulder surgery was just in june and its impossible to get in football shape or any king of shape when you shoulder is in a sling or you can't lift it above your head. Lets see how he's playing at the end of the season.

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A bad shoulder doesn’t prevent someone from running. He looks like he has done zero conditioning of any kind.

Frankly, the whole situation seems off to me. He disappears for half the year, then comes back from his sabbatical only to need shoulder surgery...why couldn’t this have been done in May?

When he’s out there, he doesn’t even look like the same guy. Obviously he’s not playing great but there’s no intensity either. No wild celebrations when he does make a play like last year, just kinda looks “meh” all the time.

I don’t know what’s going on with him, but it’s not just a bum shoulder.

Jonathon Allen had a great senior season and was projected to be a top 5 pick. He fell to 17 because of a bad shoulder. Key has a bad shoulder, under performing, and he's overweight.

Just like most guys, his body-type can only handle so much weight. He doesn't have wide shoulders, and cannot carry a lot of upper body weight. And, as this season has shown, he slows way down when he gets chub in the arse. He is starting to look a little better, so let's give him a chance to continue his rehab.

He really should stay another season but I doubt that will happen...

During his "hiatus" he rarely worked out. He needed time to fix his life but he has a pretty poor attitude about LSU football. He sees lsu as a stepping stone and knows he did enough last year.

That's just stupid. You should feel stupid.

Key's energy is gone. Last year he played like he was on cocaine last year. This year he's playing like he's on Xanax and he looks depressed.

Also, he was the most dominant defensive player in the SEC last year and asking him to gain weight was a huge mistake. A few more pounds of lean muscle would have been fine but adding fat to get bigger was stupid and took away his elite speed and agility.

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guys we ned to be a little more fair to key. The shoulder surgery was just in june and its impossible to get in football shape or any king of shape when you shoulder is in a sling or you can't lift it above your head. Lets see how he's playing at the end of the season.

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Thats fine, but he should sit the bench until he is back in shape. Chassion is the better option right now.

Pure conjecture on my part, but I wonder if what we are seeing with Key is someone who had severe MH issues over the Summer and is currently on psychotropics to manage it (i.e. SSRI/2nd gen antipsychotic combo). I don't think it is simply lack of effort on his part.