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re: Officer Who Arrested Utah Nurse In Viral Video Is Now Under Criminal Investigation
Posted on 9/2/17 at 1:38 pm to lsunurse
Posted on 9/2/17 at 1:38 pm to lsunurse
What's the law? Did he act professionally? No. But there was an accident with a fatality involved. The longer the patient goes without the lab draw, the longer drugs/alcohol have to metabolize out of their system. I've seen it done here on unconscious pt's. No issues from nursing or administration. I wasn't directly involved, but I have wondered what the exact protocol is.
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Posted on 9/2/17 at 1:41 pm to SmackoverHawg
Yeah. He was NOT a suspect in the wreck. The person who caused the wreck died.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 1:42 pm to SmackoverHawg
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What's the law? Did he act professionally? No. But there was an accident with a fatality involved. The longer the patient goes without the lab draw, the longer drugs/alcohol have to metabolize out of their system. I've seen it done here on unconscious pt's. No issues from nursing or administration. I wasn't directly involved, but I have wondered what the exact protocol is.
I don't recall the original story exactly, but I don't believe the patient was responsible for the accident, only involved in it.
The quote clearly explains the protocol. She was more than willing to draw the blood if he followed the protocol/law. Place patient under arrest, or obtain a warrant. Without these things, she acted in accordance with the law and her duties as a healthcare professional.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 1:43 pm to SmackoverHawg
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What's the law?
I don't know the law but the constitution is pretty clear on this issue and the cop is wrong.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:13 pm to SmackoverHawg
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What's the law?
Not against the law felony wise (maybe simple battery/assault), but in tort he's liable as frick for false imprisonment and abuse of executive power, and I could easily tack on some intentional infliction of emotional distress with that.
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:19 pm to SmackoverHawg
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Officer Who Arrested Utah Nurse In Viral Video Is Now Under Criminal Investigation by SmackoverHawg
What's the law? Did he act professionally? No. But there was an accident with a fatality involved. The longer the patient goes without the lab draw, the longer drugs/alcohol have to metabolize out of their system. I've seen it done here on unconscious pt's. No issues from nursing or administration. I wasn't directly involved, but I have wondered what the exact protocol is.
You fell down the same hole I did in a poli board thread. Took me 5-6 posts before somebody told me the patient was NOT at fault. Apparently just some poor bastard who got plowed into.
I saw the video and NEVER thought anything other than the patient must have been the drunk. Can't wrap my head around it being the other way around, and that cop being that pissed.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:23 pm to SmackoverHawg
Law in Utah is that the LEO needs probable cause to draw blood from a person that isnt or cant consent even in fatal accident. The officer said multiple times on the body cam video that he did not have PC.
He got mad that the nurse challenged him and took it out on her. He should lose his job.
He got mad that the nurse challenged him and took it out on her. He should lose his job.
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:35 pm to SmackoverHawg
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SmackoverHawg
What law anywhere allows police to require someone to help them?
Why was he not under arrest?
Posted on 9/2/17 at 4:34 pm to SmackoverHawg
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I have wondered what the exact protocol is.
She literally had the exact protocol in her hand and read it to him.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 9:37 pm to SmackoverHawg
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What's the law? Did he act professionally? No. But there was an accident with a fatality involved. The longer the patient goes without the lab draw, the longer drugs/alcohol have to metabolize out of their system. I've seen it done here on unconscious pt's. No issues from nursing or administration. I wasn't directly involved, but I have wondered what the exact protocol is.
The patient was the victim of police and a suspect in a high speed chase stupid frick, and he had already been injected with narcotics because he had severe life threatening burns. There was zero reason to need his blood.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 9:51 pm to SmackoverHawg
The nurse did the right thing 100%. She followed her code of ethics. She refused to break the law despite an out of control authoritative cop.
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