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re: More evidence that math is x-ist: Algebra is a "civil rights issue"

Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:35 pm to
i don't think the crazy person in teh OP is even making this a racial issue

just a generic "civil rights" issue
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33973 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:37 pm to
Hard bigotry of no expectations.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Eloy Ortiz Oakley, chancellor of California Community Colleges


The Eloy were a bunch of white dumb asses..



Who got eaten by the morelock...



Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58203 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:41 pm to
So he's advocating that companies lower their standards to accommodate minority hires? So, affirmative action?
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 3:10 pm to
Sad commentary.

Why is it racist?

Does the phd notice that persons with a lot of melanin refused to buckle down and do all the problems, not just the ones with answers in the back. For most people math is about being willing to do all the steps and not blame the "man" if you skipped a chapter and wonder now why you cant get the answer to question 1.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42876 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 3:36 pm to
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I just realized he's referring to a college algebra requirement. That seemed so ridiculous that I thought he was discussing high school algebra,


Holy chit - I thought he was talking about high school also - so this is the exponitiation of stupid.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42876 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 3:37 pm to
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just a generic "civil rights" issue

So - It is about the "others" who are not "us" = got it.
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 3:56 pm to
I really hate to say this,but, in my store of about 45 employees, I have been shocked recently to find that most of them can not do simple math. I was shocked last week when I asked a worker to add 3 items up to see if a food stamp customer had enough stamps/EBT card to pay for it. She could not add 3 items up on a pc. of paper. She is a Jr. in college. I had another cashier that could not add 2 produce items up and divide by two. She is a graduate of a Ms. school. I asked a male stocker[full time] to add up 6 items for a nursing home resident purchase that was out in a car by the front door waiting to pay. My guy, age 25, could not add them up. He had to go to our back office to get a office lady to use an adding machine to add.I don't know what America is going to do. I learned math in the 6th and 7th grade 40yrs ago.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 4:03 pm to
If you want to see confusion give a cashier an extra dollar after they have rung you up and your change due back is $4.03.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 4:14 pm to
Stats is really used heavily in operation management classes.

I do feel like to fully understand stats you need to grasp calculus
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 4:15 pm to
A human rights issue?
Maybe we should attach a degree to a baby's birth certificate?

This sounds like- "it's too hard so we shouldn't have to do it."
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 4:19 pm to
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If you want to see confusion give a cashier an extra dollar after they have rung you up and your change due back is $4.03.
I'm not sure I follow your scenario, I'm interpreting it as this:

1. Item is rung up.
2. Customer pays for item.
3. Customer is owed $4.03 in return.
4. Before it is returned, customer gives cashier and extra dollar.

Or is this way off, and the scenario is completely different?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21970 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 4:28 pm to
This is a holy shite post because statistics are typically taught after calculus.

Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

serious question (i never took stats in college): can you really do much with stats without calculus?


Yeah
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10680 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 4:32 pm to
Hmmm, many jobs that require a college education do not require algebra. If you know what we would call basic math you can do a lot of jobs. You can do a lot of technical jobs and not know algebra.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 4:33 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41812 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 4:35 pm to
Everyone's a victim and everything is a victimizer. These people are sad....
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 4:44 pm to
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This is a holy shite post because statistics are typically taught after calculus.
I've never seen calculus as a prerequisite to statistics, unless one is actually a statistics major and going to get involved with theoretical problems, working with probability functions, or determining estimators, one is unlikely to use much calculus in a stats course.

I mean I do a lot of stats work, and if you asked me to determine the maximum likelihood estimator of some distribution, I would probably pass on that.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 4:47 pm to
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Hmmm, many jobs that require a college education do not require algebra

Using that standard, there would be a zero class requirement to get an associate's degree
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21970 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

serious question (i never took stats in college): can you really do much with stats without calculus?


quote:

Yeah


Well you can, but you need to modify the saying...

lies, damn lies, and statistics to...

Lies, damn lies, and subpar math.

Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21970 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

This is a holy shite post because statistics are typically taught after calculus.


quote:

I've never seen calculus as a prerequisite to statistics, unless one is actually a statistics major and going to get involved with theoretical problems, working with probability functions, or determining estimators, one is unlikely to use much calculus in a stats course. I mean I do a lot of stats work, and if you asked me to determine the maximum likelihood estimator of some distribution, I would probably pass on that.


I write computer simulations of rocket motor chuff.

I couldn't even imagine doing my statistical work without knowing calculus.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 4:58 pm
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