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Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:43 am to Elleshoe
No. Not humiliated at all. Orgeron was Assistant Head Coach at USC for 6 years. I am sure you will make light of that because it suits your agenda.
By the way Dave Aranda carries Assistant Head Coach title I believe.
By the way Dave Aranda carries Assistant Head Coach title I believe.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 7:44 am
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:43 am to STRIPES
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In addition, LSU is doing talent evaluations at camps
Since when is this some kind of cutting edge concept?
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Where he made his mistake was taking that toilet of a job in Oxford
He had the absolute worst tenure in a generation at Ole Miss, if not their entire history. Was he more limited in his three years there than every other coach they've had?
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:48 am to MOT
I am defending Orgeron's tenure at Ole Miss but if you think for a minute that is a comparable position and that talent on those teams or staff were remotely what he has at LSU then you have blinders on.
He will be succesfull at LSU. He is at the right place at the right time.
He will be succesfull at LSU. He is at the right place at the right time.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:53 am to STRIPES
Orgeron has never been in charge of making decisions at any place he's ever coached with the exception of Ole Miss. David Cutcliffe went to a Cotton Bowl, Houston Nutt went to a Cotton Bowl. Hugh Freeze went to the Sugar Bowl. Those are the coaches that have coached at Ole Miss in the same era as Coach O.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:55 am to Elleshoe
quote:hiring Ed as the head coach is akin to playing the lottery as an investment strategy
On paper it was a terrible hire. Not a mediocre one. Terrible.
Not saying it can't work, but all signs say it probably isn't wise
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:55 am to STRIPES
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Orgeron was Assistant Head Coach at USC for 6 years
For anyone else, it's just a title to get a pay raise.. But, you are trying to twist this title into some kind of justification for the hire..
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:11 am to Comp721
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I love Ed as a person but his tenure at ole miss was a complete disaster. Really no reason to think he's even a decent head coach at this point
Right? It really is a shame that football coaches are the ONLY professionals who can't learn, evolve and grow over the course of 15 years...
I mean it's not like there have ever been any examples of middling head coaches from struggling programs (Michigan State for example), who moved on from early coaching jobs, learned, and became great...
If only Ed had the capacity to learn from past mistakes, make solid coordinator hires, and continue to recruit well. MAYBE then we could give him the benefit of the doubt.
Until then, he's just the same old shirtless, Red bull guzzling coonass from down the bayou. Can't coach his way out if a wet paper bag, right?
I may have laid it on a little thick there, so I'll just say it. Your post was asinine.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:13 am to STRIPES
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No. Not humiliated at all. Orgeron was Assistant Head Coach at USC for 6 years. I am sure you will make light of that because it suits your agenda. By the way Dave Aranda carries Assistant Head Coach title I believe.
You are really dumb
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:23 am to Guava Jelly
This thread is about his ranking as a coach right now. And as of right now orgeron has no history of being a good head coach. Of course it's possible that he'll become great, but you can't give him credit for something that he might do in the future.
Btw, putting a giant space in the middle of your post doesn't make you look any more clever
Btw, putting a giant space in the middle of your post doesn't make you look any more clever
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:24 am to Guava Jelly
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Right? It really is a shame that football coaches are the ONLY professionals who can't learn, evolve and grow over the course of 15 years...
I mean it's not like there have ever been any examples of middling head coaches from struggling programs (Michigan State for example), who moved on from early coaching jobs, learned, and became great...
Holy shite, you're really comparing Orgeron at Ole Miss to Saban at MSU? Not only was he exponentially more succesfull at a historically-worse program, Saban had previously been an NFL DC and assistant and had D1 head coaching experience before. Jesus, dude.
A more apt comparison would be Curly Hallman. shite, he's had like 20+ years to "grow professionally". We should've kicked the tires on Curly before pulling the trigger on DA COEAUXCH OEAUXH
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:27 am to Elleshoe
The Florida game just scares me when I think of what happened that day. Should have been nowhere near the mix for the job after that shitshow. All O's quirks and practice gimmicks should have led to an absolutely dominant performance that day, instead the team qb'd by a worse Purdue reject gets it done in our house, O lets Fournette play on no practice only because Florida players were talking shite pregame (after our players interfered with their warmup), Miles-esque disorganization. Ugh. I'm past the point of frustration and just hope our great coordinators can take us to the next level. Alleva is such a bitch.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:28 am to lsu2006
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MSU? Not only was he exponentially more succesfull at a historically-worse program,
Tell me what is the most famous football game of all time and who were the two schools?
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:28 am to lsu2006
I think it's funny he thinks we're recruiting "well" also, considering the class is full of 3 stars right now.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:28 am to STRIPES
He's never been a DC and no, ole miss didn't get rid of cutcliffe for nutt. They fired O and hired nutt.
Y'all "he talks like us" people don't even know the facts.
Y'all "he talks like us" people don't even know the facts.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:29 am to STRIPES
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Where he made his mistake was taking that toilet of a job in Oxford where you cant even cheat yor arse off and win the division. It is a horrible job that even got rid of David Cutcliffe so they could hire Houston Nutt. It is just a bad program with horrible leadership. I am not overlooking the test of Orgeron's career for the sake of Ole Miss. If you blame him for Ole Miss then credit him for his work at Miami, USC and helping LSU salvage last season after that team was ready to tank it. That is a fact.
I love fake news
Technically his predecessor at Ole Miss did win the division in 2003, they didn't go to Atlanta due to tie breaker. He also won 10 games that year. He was fired for O who won 10 games in 3 years. Both Nutt and Freeze have had 10 win seasons there. The only coach that didn't have even a winning season there in 30 years or so is O. In his interim stints at UCS and LSU he basically took out the trash, beating the teams you should and losing to the good teams, the only quality win he had was Stanford. At Miami he was a DL coach, they had won 2 titles before he got there. Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:30 am to S
Glad to see the negatigers are on board for the coming season
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:31 am to H-Town Tiger
Houston Nutt literally took his team and won 9 games and a cotton bowl his first year. Lol from 3-9 to 9-4 in one year.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:31 am to themunch
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Glad to see the negatigers are on board for the coming season
Feel free to point out anything that isn't fact.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:32 am to TH03
Where is the Nutt now?
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