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re: Manchester Bomber Was Banned by Mosque and Reported to the Authorities at Least Five Times

Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38248 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:20 pm to
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Religion becomes dangerous when it is read literally


Not true. If you literally follow Jesus' advice then you'll probably do fine.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:20 pm to
Many abortion clinics are burned down, even a doctor was shot. It happens daily in Israel and there are Christians in Israel who serve in the Israelis armed forces. Who knows how often it happens in the Middle East and Eastern Europe bc it is not reported here in the States.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20525 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:21 pm to
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All, yes, but bombings require quite a bit of material to pull off on this scale. A little due diligence can go a long long way to reducing successful attacks.


Not really. I'm sure ISIS has it down pretty well too. I mean I could make a pipe bomb with a fuse you light in about an hour.

The guys driving trucks through people, I mean that can be done with the flip of a switch.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38248 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:21 pm to
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I mean I could make a pipe bomb with a fuse you light in about an hour.


Welcome to the watch list
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67214 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:23 pm to
I agree on the trucks. That's hard to stop. Small pipe bombs are one thing, but this wasn't a small pipe bomb.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35119 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:23 pm to
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Not true. If you literally follow Jesus' advice then you'll probably do fine.


I mean... If you follow the old testament literally...
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35119 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:28 pm to
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Many abortion clinics are burned down, even a doctor was shot


How many died?

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It happens daily in Israel


Ah yes. The guys who defend themselves against terrorist. If the terrorist would leave Isreal alone, Isreal wouldn't retaliate.

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Who knows how often it happens in the Middle East and Eastern Europe bc it is not reported here in the States.


Ah more retaliation. Once again, don't Start no shite won't be no shite.

One side is the aggressor. One side is purely defensive and retaliatory for their own self preservation.

You are quite literally comparing apples to oranges.

Like I said. Wake me up when there are widespread GLOBAL terrorist attacks perpetuated by Christians against any other group that are instigated via hatred for other groups and seeing them as less than human.

You are quite bad at this.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38248 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:29 pm to
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I mean... If you follow the old testament literally


Here are my questions to you:

Was the US justified in bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Were the Brits justified in firebombing population centers?
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 2:30 pm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35119 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:32 pm to
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Was the US justified in bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Were the Brits justified in firebombing population centers?


Yes and yes. You should know my views on that

I'm also not religious in the least bit. I will concede that Christianity is less dangerous in its literal form than Islam. You will get no argument from me on that. But Christianity ain't all peace love and harmony 100% of the time. But Christianity is now a modernized religion and has been through an enlightenment where any extremist act perpetuated in the name of Christianity is quickly denounced.
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:34 pm to
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I guess I'm just an idiot but I'm still trying to figure out which curse word is b*****ks.


Buttocks.....BOOM!
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6899 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:35 pm to
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Ah yes. The guys who defend themselves against terrorist. If the terrorist would leave Isreal alone, Isreal wouldn't retaliate.


I'm not saying that radical Islam isn't the bad guy here, they are, but you might want to do a little research on Israeli-Palestinian relations. It's not quite that simple
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 2:35 pm
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14424 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:36 pm to
I'm the administrator of a FB group for the supporters of a London-based football club. Even conservative people in the UK and Europe would be at best moderate-left here in the States. They believe in thought-crime BIG TIME. That is is ANYONE says BOO about Muslims, LBGTQRSTUV, or anything even remotely Judeo-Christian in morality, they get all testy and accusatory.

They'd NEVER do more than add a name to a list, forget doing due diligence, getting probably cause or executing searches or whatever. That would be stereotypical and profiling. It's scary how much they've turned into an SJW society.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35119 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:40 pm to
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I'm not saying that radical Islam isn't the bad guy here, they are, but you might want to do a little research on Israeli-Palestinian relations. It's not quite that simple


I understand the Israeli Palestinian relationship. And I stand by my statement. Israel is surrounded by countries that want them wiped off the face of the planet. They do what they have to do. Do I agree with it all? Absolutely not.

But to compare what Israel is doing to what is happening in nice, Paris, Manchester, etc is just being willfully obtuse.

They aren't the same and we all know that. Is Israel in the right 100%? Not at all. But a lot of the issues in that area stem from their neighbors outright hatred for Israel, and a lot of tensions would recede if the Muslim nations would simply let Israel be. And Israel do the same.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38248 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:41 pm to
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Yes and yes. You should know my views on that

I'm also not religious in the least bit. I will concede that Christianity is less dangerous in its literal form than Islam. You will get no argument from me on that. But Christianity ain't all peace love and harmony 100% of the time. But Christianity is now a modernized religion and has been through an enlightenment where any extremist act perpetuated in the name of Christianity is quickly denounced


If you agree that those events were justified then you shouldn't have any problem with the Old Testament.

Christianity is about peace and love. It's about triumph of good over the wicked. That's something that Islam can't claim. Muhammad advocating for slaughter of the innocent out of disbelief of him. He killed for conquest. The bible advocates for war against the most wicked of wicked and against the nations that cause human suffering, not for conquest.
Posted by DupontsCircle
Dupont Circle
Member since Jun 2016
5823 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:44 pm to
Say what you will...but Hitler would have never stood for this nonsense
Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
1787 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:44 pm to
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Lock them up. Give them only bacon to eat for a month. Then bathe them in pigs blood and put a 9mm round through their ear.


We have some seriously deranged posters on this site.
Posted by leveedogs
Levee
Member since Jan 2016
276 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:44 pm to
Step 1: Brexit and stop the flood of "refugees"
Step 2: If you have traveled to fight for ISIS you are a traitor and automatically lose citizenship and ability to return to the UK.
Step 3: Infiltrate mosques to identify those with radical views and make Imams personally responsible if one of their followers commits an atrocity.
Step 4: Sacrifice individual privacy for increased safety. Increase facial recognition and other tracking methods of suspects identified in Step3.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6899 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:45 pm to
Again, I understand what you mean, and indeed agree that the majority of time Israel is in the right, however, this conflict has to do with the military occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip that Israel has been undertaking since 1967. Now, a lot of things led to the circumstances of the 6 day war, however, to say that Israel is leaving them alone would be a little short sighted. Israel has been occupying Muslim territory for 60 years.

Again, the circumstances leading up to the 6 day war are justifiable. Israel felt it had no choice; but if Israel weren't occupying that land, the UN would not be dealing with the terrorist problem as we know it today.

ETA: Basically I'm saying that there's a lot more to it then the Muslim religion just being an evil one. It's a complicated problem with no clear solution. Don't misunderstand me though, my allegiance lies with Israel here. I understand why they don't want to go back to the pre-1967 borders. I am just trying to vocalize what I have always perceived as the issue.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 2:50 pm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35119 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:47 pm to
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If you agree that those events were justified then you shouldn't have any problem with the Old Testament.


I have zero problem with the old testament because Christianity has gone though an enlightenment and moved on.

But the reason why I believe the events you brought up were justified has nothing to do with religion
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62541 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:49 pm to
England has a damn problem!!!! Their leaders have sold them out, like Obama did us....
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