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Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:31 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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We love our government intrusion, don't we folks?
Are you arguing that there should be no laws whatsoever?
Isn't welfare, government intrusion?
Taxes?
Abortion itself is an intrusion when paid for by the government.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:32 am to Masterag
Why stop here? Why not simply kill all the old folks on Medicare and Social Security? That would save the tax payers more money.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:32 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Stealing is illegal.
As abortion should be. Isn't that the point he is making?
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:34 am to Revelator
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Why stop here? Why not simply kill all the old folks on Medicare and Social Security? That would save the tax payers more money.
His whole argument is based around "There should be more abortion."
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:34 am to DawgsLife
Government is lefty's lord and savior. He'll never get it.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:37 am to LSU Patrick
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Government is lefty's lord and savior. He'll never get it.
Anytime government gets in our lives at all, it could be argued that it is intrusion. People who argue that we don't want government intrusion remind me of those that argue we don't want any kind of censorship.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:46 am to Masterag
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because it WOULD be a human being if another hadn't intervened.
You pretty much shot your argument to Hell with this one sentence.
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They are anti welfare, but they "care" about the fetus.... until it's born.
spectacular point
...and you proved you're a mindless hack with this statement.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 7:49 am
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:49 am to DisplacedBuckeye
You love government intrusion when it fits your beliefs. It's ok to admit that.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:50 am to DawgsLife
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Are you arguing that there should be no laws whatsoever?
No, I'm arguing that pushing for legislation based on personal or religious beliefs is not consistent with a desire for limited government.
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Isn't welfare, government intrusion?
Yes, and I oppose increasing welfare benefits.
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Taxes?
Yes, and I oppose increasing tax rates.
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Abortion itself is an intrusion when paid for by the government.
Correct, and I oppose taxpayer-funded abortions.
None of that speaks to the legality of abortion.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:59 am to Masterag
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MO, being pro life and against welfare are antithetical.
Well thanks for outing yourself as a complete moron then.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 8:03 am to ChewyDante
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Why aren't there more pro choice conservatives?
Why are there so many pro choice conservatives?
Posted on 5/19/17 at 8:16 am to TheArrogantCorndog
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Birth control is extremely cheap and abstinence is free...
Funny thing is that the people who are against abortion are usually also against birth control and sexual education.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 8:19 am to Masterag
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Why aren't there more pro choice conservatives?
I think we need to define what a conservative is post Trump election. I'm not up to the task, maybe y'all can handle this for me.
May need to start a thread so everyone can throw in their .02 cents.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 8:20 am
Posted on 5/19/17 at 8:23 am to AirFarce1
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against schools handing out birth control and providing sexual education
Fify
That's a parent/ child issue for conservatives.
Being against the government providing it, is not equivalent to being against it being provided.
Liberals never seem to be able to grasp that.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 9:26 am to Masterag
quote:Many social conservatives adhere to a worldview that shapes their views on abortion as the taking of innocent life. No matter how fiscally conservative you are, if you are morally opposed to abortion, you cannot in good conscience concede that position in favor of saving some money.
Why aren't there more pro choice conservatives?
Conservatives who are against abortion are typically against the abuse of (or the existence of) the welfare system, as well. Just because we don't condone taking innocent life doesn't mean we do condone irresponsibly raising that child once it is born. We want people to be responsible, period. That means being responsible with your sexual activities as well as being responsible for the provision and rearing of children after they are born.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 9:34 am
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:15 am to Masterag
quote:destroying innocent life is inherently antithetical to conservatism. Your retarded question is like asking why isn't there more darkness in the light. Abortion of course is the darkness.
Why aren't there more pro choice conservatives?
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:18 am to Masterag
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Why aren't there more pro choice conservatives?
I'm pro choice and I guess I'd be considered conservative compared to Dems these days.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:22 am to Masterag
I can't really answer because i am a conservative that doesn't care as long as federal tax payer money doesn't pay for the abortions. This a states rights issue that that should be delegated based on local morality beliefs. Every person has to look in the mirror every day of their life and will face their Creator when it ends so there will be consequences sooner or later for all your choices.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:34 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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No, I'm arguing that pushing for legislation based on personal or religious beliefs is not consistent with a desire for limited government.
Aren't any laws a form of intrusion?
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Isn't welfare, government intrusion?
Yes, and I oppose increasing welfare benefits.
If you are against government intrusion, shouldn't you be against welfare?
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Taxes?
Yes, and I oppose increasing tax rates.
I would think you would be against all taxes, or do you love your government intrusions?
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Correct, and I oppose taxpayer-funded abortions.
None of that speaks to the legality of abortion.
I was not speaking to the legality of abortion. I was speaking to your statement of government intrusion. I personally believe that we have to have a certain amount of government intrusion. You indicated that you were against government intrusion.
Perhaps I misunderstood you. Are you saying (as insinuated by your post) that you are ok with the amount of government intrusion we now have as long as we don't have more, or are you saying you are against all government intrusion?
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