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No way in hell will this be taken seriously

Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:19 pm
Posted by aib799
Member since Jul 2014
350 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:19 pm
OK, so some folks feel as if Lebron is approaching top 5 category (even top 2) for some. Are these ppl prisoner of the moment? Do they really understand the greatness of players like Jabbar and Magic and Russel?

I do think Lebron is top 5 for sure based on his athletic ability and actually living up to some of the unreal expectations that he and others placed upon himself. He probably has as much athletic skill as anyone that played the game. Also, he has finally learned to sometimes not back down from the moment.This was always a struggle for him. To go to the hole instead of just shooting a 3 when the game is on the line. To want to shoot the important free throws (which still is a weakness).

But at the end of the day he really fails when compared to 3 players. Jordan (of course), Russel and Jabbar.

Jabbar had all the hype, all the expectations and lived up to them. Two franchises to the championship. All time leader in points, unstoppable shot. Was a phenom every bit as much as Lebron was but it gets forgotten about.

Russel was probably the closest to Jordan in terms of desire, hunger, killer mentality. No his numbers aren't what makes him great. It is all the things that numbers can't measure. Leadership, will to win, foundation of a defense. All at a time when his color worked against him. I mean he coached and played at the same time and won championships.

Jordan, nothing can be said for him that isn't known. He did everything the right way. He answered all challenges and conquered all before him. One of the reasons for his greatness-names of players that were denied championships because of him (P. Ewing, C. Barkley, K.Malone, J. Stockton, C. Drexler, S. O'Neal, K. Johnson, A. Mourning, R. Miller, G. Payton, S. Kempf, D. Wilkins) to just name a few. Once Jordan won his first, I don't think most ppl doubted who was going to win the championship every year. He never backed down, never shied away from competition. Oh, we are going to have a slam dunk competition. No problem, I will go battle what probably is considered the best dunker of all time and beat him (maybe a little home court advantage). Scoring leader every year, no problem. Defense, yeah just won defensive player of the year. He went through the toughest of the tough, Pistons, Celtics, Knicks, Pacers. He was the ultimate competitor, alpha male, winner.

I know, too long, didn't read, whatever. Just putting thoughts on screen when it comes to NBA all time greats. Hate all you want. Everyone will feel as they want anyway

Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:20 pm to
Oh what the shite is this?
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8778 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

OK, so some folks feel as if Lebron is approaching top 5 category


He's easily already in the Top 5
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38133 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:21 pm to
Is this on audio book?
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:21 pm to
Bill Russell?
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20689 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:22 pm to
This seems like a good time to start this thread...
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9513 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:22 pm to
Lol you didn't watch Russell play. shite, you can't even spell his name correctly.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18970 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55845 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

OK, so some folks feel as if Lebron is approaching top 5 category (even top 2) for some. Are these ppl prisoner of the moment? Do they really understand the greatness of players like Jabbar and Magic and Russel?
stopped reading

quote:

No way in hell will this be taken seriously

you got that right
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
44135 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:25 pm to
Can you please reformat the post into hot take or meme format. Thx
Posted by MSH
America
Member since Oct 2014
2785 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:25 pm to
Wtf;dr

Downvote.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35558 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

He went through the toughest of the tough, Pistons, Celtics, Knicks, Pacers.


Bron came back after being down 3-1 to the best regular season team of all time.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35626 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

. Are these ppl prisoner of the moment?


Where have you been on the internet the last 15 years?

Yes, Millennials rule the internet and sports talk. Their memory goes back to when Jordan first retired.

Nothing happened before the movie Twister came out.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 10:27 pm
Posted by LSUperior
Member since Aug 2009
1237 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:26 pm to
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Shaq won several championships...not sure if serious?
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 10:30 pm
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40747 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:27 pm to
Lebron shits over Magic in every phase of the game
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111143 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

OK, so some folks feel as if Lebron is approaching top 5 category (even top 2) for some
He's top 2, approaching top 1. Whether he gets there remains to be seen.

Anyone who says either of the following:

1. He's not top 2

2. He has no chance to be #1


You don't need to take their opinion seriously. I didn't read the rest, but I'm sure you made a great post.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:31 pm to
Top 2 with Jordan as we speak.

No way any other player that has played comes close to the skill level LeBron brings to the table. Guy leaves Cleveland? They go to shite and win lotteries. He leaves Miami? They go to shite. Not as bad as Cleveland, but still shite nonetheless.

Lebron's size, speed, quickness, ball-handles, ability to make the entire organization better from top to bottom--not just those on the court, is unmatched outside Jordan.

You hit on Lebron's failures from his past--that was spot on, but he has erased those demons the past two years.

He is elevating his game and playing like the last true alpha-dog you may see in the NBA until another phenom arises one day soon.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:36 pm to
Didn't you hear. Perfection is a thing of the past and it is actually looked down on these days. Being a lovable loser is now celebrated as everyone gets a participation ribbon. LeBron is going to lose his 5th NBA championship series this season and god love him for these failures. GOAT!
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

Russel was probably the closest to Jordan in terms of desire, hunger, killer mentality.
Not only can you not objectively quantify and compare these things, even if you can we could watch every single play, that wouldn't matter in Russell's case because you couldn't have seen but a fraction of his games anyways.

Besides, whole they're undoubtedly important, they are just another collection of variables that will contribute to what truly matters: performance on the court.

If somehow there was an X-men like mutant with unseen size, ability, and skills who played the game, and had astronomical stats, wins, and championships, but didn't really care about the game so he didn't work hard, he would still be the greatest player of all time.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:44 pm to
Jordan


LeBron






Doesn't really matter; every one else
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