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re: Louisiana chief justice blasts 'ridiculous' 18-year sentence for marijuana

Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:22 am to
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14522 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:22 am to
It is ridiculous...but she is the chief justice not a legislator.

Follow the damn law.

Plenty of legislators working on reducing sentences for nonviolent crime right now as we speak (type). I hope they are successful. I hope we eventually follow CO example.

But that is not an excuse for a justice to make up their own law.

Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
3952 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:23 am to
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I've treated inmates in both state and Federal prisons. How about you?


I'm not medical doctor but have worked with inmates, in and out of prison, for a number of years (in a former life of some sense).
We don't have to proper resources in place to properly handle and reintroduction ex cons into the working world.

To say there are incredible resources for educational training and rehabilitation is a joke and exceptionally naive.

Sure, there are programs and a number of success stories but the recidivism rate for individuals that spent time in prison is substantially higher than those that go through a diversion/rehab program.

You are comparing apples to oranges with the comparison between prisons and mental health wards in regards to drug offenders.

I'm well aware of the budget slashing that's occluded to mental health facilities...thanks Jindal.

But I'm not talking about sending drug offenders to mental health wards. I'm arguing we need better programs in place to divert drug offenders away from prison and receive the training and rehab to reorganize their lives.

Again, most of the crimes committed in LA are directly drug related crimes. Most of those are marijuana related.
Prison is not the answer for these individuals.

It's the backward thinking that all must see jail time that has led us to the prison crisis we are in and the extremely high recidivism rate.
And the lack of emphasis on education in south LA.


Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
3952 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:25 am to
quote:


It is ridiculous...but she is the chief justice not a legislator.

Follow the damn law



So a Louisiana Supreme Court Justice isn't supposed to determine if the law is unconstitutional?

Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15571 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:32 am to
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They would still have to pass a drug test for work but at least they wouldn't have a wasteful criminal record and zero time in prison.
Yes they would.

Drug users are shitty employees and in a construction environment dangerous to their co-workers.

Making it legal doesn't mean I have to hire you.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
13694 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:35 am to
My problem with this is that there are people convicted of violet crimes who do far less time.

Its crazy. I understand that pot is against the law but that seems pretty excessive.
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
3952 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:38 am to
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Making it legal doesn't mean I have to hire you.


Well sure, no one said anything to the opposite
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
3952 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:40 am to
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s crazy. I understand that pot is against the law but that seems pretty excessive.


Yes sir
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34931 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:42 am to
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I am curious why they dropped the gun charges on him in this situation. Seems odd.


Probably plea-bargained in exchange for a guilty plea for another crime.

The guy isn't being imprisoned for weed. He's getting a Lifetime Achievement Award for his long career as a criminal dumbass.
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
3952 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:47 am to
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long career as a criminal dumbass.


That he is, but for the marijuana charges and conviction, he wouldn't be in prison.
We have no idea what happened with the gun charge.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 7:01 pm to
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Sorry ... actions/choices have consequences. Everyone with common sense should know that


You mean like serving the sentence?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64582 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 7:40 pm to
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Maybe they should stop selling drugs.


Well lets just kill them then. Be done with it. Right?
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:02 pm to
Yet, Cameron Robinson gets caught with some dope here in Monroe last summer and our awesome DA says that they work so hard in the summer while we are in the AC.

F-the law.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42588 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:14 pm to
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Its crazy. I understand that pot is against the law but that seems pretty excessive.


Honestly anyone who supports this conviction shouldn't be allowed to vote. There's not one rational argument you can make that supports such an excessive conviction. We're going to spend millions locking up someone over 18 grams of marijuana. How about legalizing it, taxing it, and then using the billions you generate to actually improve the state? We all know Louisiana needs a lot of help.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112853 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:16 pm to
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successful.




The DA's association and sheriff's lobby has the legislature by the balls. In addition to that, it's easy to drag out a "tough on crime" campaign here because the population is stupid as shite.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34931 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:43 am to
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Cameron Robinson gets caught with some dope here in Monroe


And a stolen pistol. My arse is going to jail if I'm pulled over with drugs and a stolen firearm.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41267 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:59 am to
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Cameron Robinson gets caught with some dope here in Monroe


And a stolen pistol. My arse is going to jail if I'm pulled over with drugs and a stolen firearm.



#1 you didn't sweat, you had A/C

#2 you didn't have any Alabama boosters contribute to his campaign fund
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34931 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:39 am to
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you didn't have any Alabama boosters contribute to his campaign fund


I believe it is no coincidence that SOB retired shortly after the Cam Robinson incident.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:42 am to
I'm a small government conservative, so I want to ensure we provide bunches of funding for our local PD to buy up surplus army equipment and pay nice pension to a bunch of fat fricks that contributed very little to the concept of law and order.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112853 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:43 am to
Thin blue line bro
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 10:45 pm to
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I understand this view but you still have to believe marijuana should be a jailable offense to make the premise defensible.


No, actually you don't, only the lawmakers. My personal beliefs on marijuana have nothing to do with my opinion this guy will never get it right.
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