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re: Official Better Call Saul Season 3 Episode 4: Sabrosito
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:57 pm to craigbiggio
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:57 pm to craigbiggio
Kim is not the same stuff as Jimmy. She isn't a crook like him. She dipped her toes into that life a little as a thrill with Jimmy when they ran that cheap con, but it isn't really who she is. It was just a taste for her to know that it really isn't for her, and it also was a way for her to get a peak into who Jimmy really is.
Kim is a competent, hardworking attorney who doesn't take short cuts or expose herself or her clients to unnecessary risks. This is who her character has been built up to be. For her to take some turn as being part of Saul's seedy law firm with money laundering and deals with drug dealers would be a complete break from who her character has been built to be. It just wouldn't make sense. It also would simply just be too forced and contrived to try to retcon something like that.
I am pretty close to 100% confident that does not happen. Some sort of falling out between her and Jimmy is bound to happen. There is just about no other way that it could happen. It's still possible but less likely that it is some more gentle parting, but there is no way that they are still in close contact during the events of BB.
Also, keeping Kim's character in mind, Jimmy may have something planned like stealing the tape, but I think it's very unlikely that Kim would have anything to do with that kind of strategy. Kim's role in it will have something to do with attacking Chuck's character or credibility, which might be underhanded but is still an actually legitimate legal strategy.
Kim is a competent, hardworking attorney who doesn't take short cuts or expose herself or her clients to unnecessary risks. This is who her character has been built up to be. For her to take some turn as being part of Saul's seedy law firm with money laundering and deals with drug dealers would be a complete break from who her character has been built to be. It just wouldn't make sense. It also would simply just be too forced and contrived to try to retcon something like that.
I am pretty close to 100% confident that does not happen. Some sort of falling out between her and Jimmy is bound to happen. There is just about no other way that it could happen. It's still possible but less likely that it is some more gentle parting, but there is no way that they are still in close contact during the events of BB.
Also, keeping Kim's character in mind, Jimmy may have something planned like stealing the tape, but I think it's very unlikely that Kim would have anything to do with that kind of strategy. Kim's role in it will have something to do with attacking Chuck's character or credibility, which might be underhanded but is still an actually legitimate legal strategy.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 10:18 pm
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:06 pm to LSU Wayne
Jonathan Banks on Conan tonight, FYI.
Great episode. Next week is gonna be a barn-burner, can't wait. Oh, the things I would've done in high school with 24 hours' worth of OT on my check, lol...
Great episode. Next week is gonna be a barn-burner, can't wait. Oh, the things I would've done in high school with 24 hours' worth of OT on my check, lol...
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:47 pm to Peazey
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Kim is a competent, hardworking attorney who doesn't take short cuts or expose herself or her clients to unnecessary risks.
I agree with this, but it is also part of why I think she is half of Saul. Their strengths and weaknesses compliment each other perfectly. I think when Saul needs help from her side he will give her hypothetical scenarios and not the full details. This way she will have some plausible deniability, yet still able to help.
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Some sort of falling out between her and Jimmy is bound to happen.
I believed this all the way up until this season and I think that was the writers original intention. They had it all set up for a break up with this Mesa Verde situation. It looked like Jimmy was busted which would cause her to lose her big client and possibly her law license.
This didn't happen though. She is completely by his side and they look as if they will come out winners in this. I believe the writers have changed course due to Kim's popularity and the popularity of her and Jimmy's relationship. The on screen chemistry between those two really is fun to watch.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:01 pm to Ham Solo
Vince can call an audible and make it work.
Pinkman was supposed to die in season 1. Imagine that relationship never being able to bloom.
Pinkman was supposed to die in season 1. Imagine that relationship never being able to bloom.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:06 pm to SEClint
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Vince can call an audible and make it work.
This is exactly what I think has happened. Their relationship was set up for disaster after last season. Now everything is just peachy and Kim has been playing a bit dirty ever since season 3 started. It's like they are fast tracking her over to the dark side.
I think the chemistry between them just makes for a better show.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:25 pm to Ham Solo
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I agree with this, but it is also part of why I think she is half of Saul. Their strengths and weaknesses compliment each other perfectly.
It's why in the long run they can never be together. The show has repeatedly, including in this season, shown how his penchant for cutting corners, taking the easy way out, and breaking rules clashes with Kim's hard work and simple prudence. This opposition is leading somewhere. It isn't just pointless banter.
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I believe the writers have changed course due to Kim's popularity and the popularity of her and Jimmy's relationship. The on screen chemistry between those two really is fun to watch.
They don't have to retcon her into a show that isn't even part of this storyline to keep her around. By the time she makes her complete cut with Jimmy isn't that distant from when BB begins.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:35 pm to Peazey
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The show has repeatedly, including in this season, shown how his penchant for cutting corners, taking the easy way out, and breaking rules clashes with Kim's hard work and simple prudence.
This is exactly right, but all those traits may be what keeps Saul from a crash and burn much sooner. It may be that she keeps him in line all they way up until Walt's situation gets completely out of hand.
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They don't have to retcon her into a show that isn't even part of this storyline to keep her around.
Of course they don't, but it would be very interesting if they did. It would add a whole new wrinkle to BB. Imagine how awesome a scene would be where Jimmy/Saul meets Kim for dinner to vent and get advice because of one of Walt and Jesse's major problems.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:40 pm to Ham Solo
Great episode-pretty much completely due to Gus/Mike. Anyone think the writers regret using Saul as the vehicle for this spin off?
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:47 pm to NIH
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Anyone think the writers regret using Saul as the vehicle for this spin off?
No. I think swapping between Mike and Jimmy's story is a great one two combo. If it was only Mike and Gus it would simply be breaking bad the prequel. Their story I think is also more predictable than Jimmy's
Plus Jimmy is still alive so it has endless possibilities where Gus and Mike's story has ended.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:49 pm to Ham Solo
I agree with that, it's just such a major drop off from Mike & Gus.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:52 pm to NIH
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I agree with that, it's just such a major drop off from Mike & Gus.
I think that's because they are doing the slow burn thing with Jimmy and feeding our appetite with Mike. If this is anything like BB Jimmy's story will be great towards the end of the show.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:52 pm to NIH
Every time they go from Gus/Mike to jimmy I'm let down. Hopefully his story starts to pick up.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:55 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
The slow burn approach is great when you can binge watch after the series has ended. It's a bit tough though when you are watching it in the moment.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:29 am to NIH
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Anyone think the writers regret using Saul as the vehicle for this spin off?
Nah. Jimmy's storyline is great and entertaining. Seeing his devolution is good TV. I think this show has about two more seasons in it.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:49 am to DupontsCircle
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Jimmy's storyline is great and entertaining.
I agree. Also Odenkirk has really turned into a solid actor.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 4:44 am to LSU Wayne
A question for anyone.
When Jimmy was back in Chicago doing the wallet/fake Rolex con with Marco,did he use the name "Saul Goodman" during one of the cons?
Just curious.I can't remember exactly but I remember something along that line.
TIA
When Jimmy was back in Chicago doing the wallet/fake Rolex con with Marco,did he use the name "Saul Goodman" during one of the cons?
Just curious.I can't remember exactly but I remember something along that line.
TIA
Posted on 5/3/17 at 5:09 am to tidalmouse
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When Jimmy was back in Chicago doing the wallet/fake Rolex con with Marco,did he use the name "Saul Goodman" during one of the cons?
Just curious.I can't remember exactly but I remember something along that line.
TIA
Jimmy said "it's all good man". Sounded like Saul Goodman.
I think it was Jimmy that said it.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 5:51 am to Tarik One
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After 4 seasons of "Ray Donovan" I look at Steven Bauer as Avi portraying Don Eladio
Me too. lol
All episode my wife and I kept referring to him as Avi. Love that character
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:06 am to tidalmouse
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When Jimmy was back in Chicago doing the wallet/fake Rolex con with Marco,did he use the name "Saul Goodman" during one of the cons?
I believe as they were walking into the alley, the mark apologized and said he never got his name. Jimmy replied that "it's all good man.", while barely hitting the I and T in its.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:38 am to Nodust
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Jimmy said "it's all good man".
Yeah.That was it.Thanks.
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