re: I think secondary needing to be addressed more important than one pass rusher

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we've been extremely unlucky with injuries

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Part of it is luck.

Part of it is Payton/Loomis don't value durability enough imo.

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I think it's less that our secondary is terrible and more that we've been extremely unlucky with injuries there past few years. Not sure how many teams in the NFL could survive pulling CBs off the street to fill a roster on gameday. Patriots maybe and that's probably about it.

I'm interested to see how Williams comes back from his injury. I remember the Saints feeling like he was going to be great last year and then he suffers a neck injury in the first game. Our CBs could be loaded this year 5 deep.

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The entire depth chart aside from Crawley was wiped out in 2nd game of the year. All healthy and we have a good secondary. I think PJ is a good one, sucks about his health first 2 years. Dude balled out in preseason and was playing great first couple games of season prior to injury. We finally have good DTs, and a good secondary group, if healthy.

Saints have been decimated by the injury bug past few years. They're a few rolls away from being a playoff team honestly when you look at how close several losses were. Rankins came back in the middle of the season and he really show his potential. I thought he played great and can be something special if he continues to develop. Once more defensive players started to come back the defense played noticeably better. Just goes to show you how important the draft is just for depth because injuries will happen regardless. We're still thin on DL and LB. Our LB starters are not great to begin with and DL we have really no depth there if any injuries happen. Solid line on paper but you need depth behind them.

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I agree the secondary needed better personnel, but a better pass rush will make a larger impact.

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there was 1 guy who would make a major impact on our pass rush and he went #1 overall

then there was a 2nd tier of taco and barnett, who we didn't have a chance to draft

after that it's all about the same level of guy and we drafted one of those guys

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Hell, look at the two Giants' Super Bowls, the whipped everyone on the DL.

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with top-shelf CB play, too

there were no JPPs this year

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they only have 1 dominant DL and that's mike bennett (who is comparable to cam)

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Go watch the film, that secondary is great because the front 7 dominates on first down and set them up for success.

Even P. Peterson said Seattle's DBs are as good as advertised and cited the fact that they aren't asked to do what he and other CBs are asked to do.

Again, you need at least one solid to dominant CB in the backfield and the Saints don't have that. Better personnel is needed in the secondary, nonargument.

However, their pass rush was one of the worst in the league. Yes, Cam is great but he can't generate consistent pressure by himself.

Now if Rankins comes on all year, we may have a little something.

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solid at worst secondary

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if not injured, so is ours...

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they did just spend a high pick on a CB and huge money for Bouye, so they obviously felt secondary is worth investing in

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agree, but did or did they not have a very adequate pass rush? you are saying they had shite for secondary, basically, in your post yet they are top 5 vs. the pass... how is that?

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their #1 CB just signed a major $ deal with the pats

plus they had that weird ryan exotic blitz package working. they don't have this supreme pass rush talent, either

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so they had 1 CB.... and go look at they Lorenzo Alexander's sack total last year... and get back with me about "pass rush talent"... top 5 with 12.5 sacks....

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Seattle Seahawks

great secondary

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even better pass rush... 2 guys with double digit sack totals...

We really don't even know what we had before the draft. We've played the last two years with roughly half of our defensive starters out.

That's how bad the health situation has been.

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New England has been winning championships with rookie free agent CBs making plays for years.
They have dominated the front 7, bro.


I agree the secondary needed better personnel, but a better pass rush will make a larger impact.

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exactly...