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re: How do white nationalists explain places that are white but totally dysfunctional?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 5:40 pm to ctalati32
Posted on 4/24/17 at 5:40 pm to ctalati32
quote:Whites and non-whites don't behave the same either. Blacks, for example, are disproportionately responsible for violent crime in America. something on the order of 7 to 8 times higher. People aren't stupid. People know those crime numbers. They behave and react accordingly. You can't act like the only reason non-whites are treated differently is because whites are racist. The instinct for self-preservation is the strongest instinct in humans. If you and I were in a jungle and I told you that spotted cats were 7 times more likely to harm you than striped cats, you'd respond differently to spotted cats. It's a million years of self-perservation experience hard-wired into our DNA
But the main point of that quick rant was to show that non-whites and whites aren't treated the same in this country.
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Posted on 4/24/17 at 5:40 pm to ctalati32
When I get home from the store
Posted on 4/24/17 at 5:45 pm to L.A.
quote:quote:.
But the main point of that quick rant was to show that non-whites and whites aren't treated the same in this country
Whites and non-whites don't behave the same either. Blacks, for example, are disproportionately responsible for violent crime in America. something on the order of 7 to 8 times higher. People aren't stupid. People know those crime numbers. They behave and react accordingly. You can't act like the only reason non-whites are treated differently is because whites are racist. The instinct for self-preservation is the strongest instinct in humans. If you and I were in a jungle and I told you that spotted cats were 7 times more likely to harm you than striped cats, you'd respond differently to spotted cats. It's a million years of self-perservation experience hard-wired into our DNA
But by definition isn't that racist? You are treating them differently and making assumptions about them based on their race.
If you're going to treat all black people as if they are going to perpetrate a crime because a higher percentage of them are you are being prejudiced towards them.
Shouldn't each person be judged on their own personal actions/ character?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 5:53 pm to ctalati32
LINK
that link has all sorts of links in it
primitive man literally is not capable of the same type of thinking we engage in as modern beings. we developed that over time via the Flynn Effect
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In today’s talk, Why our IQ levels are higher than our grandparents’, given at TED2013, Flynn explains that if you scored people a century ago against today’s norms, they’d have an IQ of 70, while if you score us against their norms, we’d have an average IQ of 130. In the years since his original discovery, Flynn has investigated just what this evolution is all about. Hint: our ancestors weren’t on the verge of mental retardation, nor are we all intellectually gifted.
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Flynn argues that the effect comes down to three types of thinking we currently practice that we didn’t a century ago: “classification, using logic on abstractions, taking the hypothetical seriously,” as he puts it. In other words, kids are tested in school on their ability not just to recite facts, but to apply logic to abstract scenarios. These types of thinking are also demanded by our jobs, as cognitively demanding professions have risen in popularity and importance. “Some of the habits of mind that we have developed over the twentieth century have paid off in unexpected areas,” he says.
that link has all sorts of links in it
primitive man literally is not capable of the same type of thinking we engage in as modern beings. we developed that over time via the Flynn Effect
Posted on 4/24/17 at 5:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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LINK
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In today’s talk, Why our IQ levels are higher than our grandparents’, given at TED2013, Flynn explains that if you scored people a century ago against today’s norms, they’d have an IQ of 70, while if you score us against their norms, we’d have an average IQ of 130. In the years since his original discovery, Flynn has investigated just what this evolution is all about. Hint: our ancestors weren’t on the verge of mental retardation, nor are we all intellectually gifted.
quote:
Flynn argues that the effect comes down to three types of thinking we currently practice that we didn’t a century ago: “classification, using logic on abstractions, taking the hypothetical seriously,” as he puts it. In other words, kids are tested in school on their ability not just to recite facts, but to apply logic to abstract scenarios. These types of thinking are also demanded by our jobs, as cognitively demanding professions have risen in popularity and importance. “Some of the habits of mind that we have developed over the twentieth century have paid off in unexpected areas,” he says.
that link has all sorts of links in it
primitive man literally is not capable of the same type of thinking we engage in as modern beings. we developed that over time via the Flynn Effect
Thanks.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 5:58 pm to Tigerdev
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You've done nothing to explain what you actually meant.
i did a few posts later
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culture matters a lot more in that chicken/egg conversation
see: North and South Korea or East/West Germany
we've literally seen genetically identical populations split with vastly different cultures offered, and the results speak for themselves
and again
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now genetic differences in things like IQ? not a big fan. i think most of that is culturally developed over time
go to page 3-4 of this thread for the posts
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This thread is about race
and i said that culture is by far the more important trait and IQ differences are developed, via culture, over time
but, IQ is still a genetic component.
if you have 2 hypothetical societies of the same culture, the one that is blessed with better genetics will eventually come out on top
i LITERALLY already said this to you directly
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And you mentioned genetic superiority as a factor in a thread explicitly about race.
after i clearly said that culture matters more than anything else, a few times
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:00 pm to Tigerdev
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You should make an alter and kindly lay out center left opinions on the poli board and see how that goes.
i did already
it was "SFP, 2004-2006, ED."
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:04 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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I'm thinking places like Appalachia and central Russia.
In an economic sense, nationalism has nothing to do with race. If people in these areas were allowed to do what they do best, such as producing liquor for export without having to deal with harsh government regulations, it would be a big boost to their economies. But they would have to dramatically reduce their personal consumption.
Just an idea.
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:31 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Well I'm not a white nationalist but my guess would be something like per cap theses areas are less than ghettos.
For the most part anyone with a choice even the left liberals chose a white country if they can. Every celebrity that said they would leave if trump won, which surprise they all lied, said they were going to white countries. Even snoop a loop who was going to Africa picked the whitest nation in Africa
For the most part anyone with a choice even the left liberals chose a white country if they can. Every celebrity that said they would leave if trump won, which surprise they all lied, said they were going to white countries. Even snoop a loop who was going to Africa picked the whitest nation in Africa
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
Somehow, Tigerdev reminds me of Lakeboy
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
The Flynn Effect really has nothing to say about racial IQ gaps. Even though the average IQ has risen, the gap between races has remained the same.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:39 pm to ctalati32
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If you're going to treat all black people as if they are going to perpetrate a crime because a higher percentage of them are you are being prejudiced towards them.
So is Chris Rock prejudiced when he said if he goes to the ATM at midnight & hears someone walk up behind him, he is relieved when it is a white person instead of a black person?
If I knew I was 7x more likely to get an STD having unprotected sex, would I be dumb for wearing a condom? TIL , that Chris Rock is racist
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:41 pm to Tigerdev
Actually you probably don't make more than most that post on this board. You have to consider that a likely higher percentage of this board has a degree than the general population and that it is likely a real degree not a journalism degree. 2. You failed to include the OT
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:42 pm to AUstar
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The Flynn Effect really has nothing to say about racial IQ gaps.
that's great considering i wasn't making that comparison when i used it
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:46 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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But what about Appalachia and the shitty parts of the rural Midwest?
Meth. Opioids.
But still, I'd be willing to bet the violent crime rates in those areas are less than the urban hellholes you are comparing them to.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:48 pm to Tiguar
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what's the ratio of shitty white areas of the world vs shitty black areas of the world, corrected for population?
I think this is the best possible answer to the question in the OP.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:51 pm to fr33manator
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I'd be willing to bet the violent crime rates in those areas are less than the urban hellholes you are comparing them to.
Instinctively I think you're probably right, but I really wonder.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:55 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
I wonder on that. A lot easier to get away with it in rural areas. Also much smaller numbers in each community
Posted on 4/24/17 at 7:16 pm to ctalati32
quote:No, I wouldn't call it racist. One is making assumptions based on the behavior of the group at large. We're talking about the motives behind the the treatment non-whites receive at the hands of whites. I'm saying it's not entirely due to racism. Racism exists, but it's not the only, or even the main factor IMO. The behavior of the group at large is the prime factor.
But by definition isn't that racist? You are treating them differently and making assumptions about them based on their race.
quote:Yes, or course. And I think most people do interact that way with people they know. But it's a large world and there are a lot of people we don't know.
Shouldn't each person be judged on their own personal actions/ character?
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