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re: Huge questions arise from today's testimony that may hurt the left and IC
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:27 am to Errerrerrwere
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:27 am to Errerrerrwere
There are some that can actually have an intelligent discussion.
Not many in this thread.
Not many in this thread.
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:28 am to Jjdoc
I'm not trying to debate you. I'm just telling you facts and correcting your statements.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:28 am to Jjdoc
quote:No. The article is asking questions we know the answers to, in hopes that it yields a different answer if asked again.
How am I asking the same questions? I don't recall that being asked today during the hearing.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 12:30 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:29 am to JuiceTerry
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I'm just telling you facts
You have not stated a single fact in this thread.
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and correcting your statements.
No... you have not. So again... move on.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:30 am to buckeye_vol
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The article is asking questions we know the answers to,
What are the answers Buckeye?
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in hopes that it yields a different answer if asked again.
Because here....you seem to know the answers
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:35 am to Jjdoc
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So you are of the mindset that the investigation had no surveillance?
No, clearly Russian officials were under surveillance. It's also feasible that the oddball server was monitored after the weird traffic patterns were discovered, but that thing reportedly lived in Pennsylvania.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:37 am to Jjdoc
quote:You had a dozen earlier, but I guess some got deleted. You should check in with the am crew.
No.. I started 5.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:39 am to ForeLSU
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No, clearly Russian officials were under surveillance.
Then were did Fylnn's information and everybody else that has been published in papers (which the FBI says is mostly wrong) come from?
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It's also feasible that the oddball server was monitored after the weird traffic patterns were discovered, but that thing reportedly lived in Pennsylvania.
Again.. Under what laws was this allowed?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:45 am to Jjdoc
quote:He literally just told you. frickin hell, man
No, clearly Russian officials were under surveillance.
Then were did Fylnn's information
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:46 am to Jjdoc
My question is why are they denying wiretaps when Trump delivered the proof to them a couple of days ago and the proof has been leaked to the media already.
Are they saying no wiretaps based on semantics?
Are they saying no wiretaps based on semantics?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:47 am to Jjdoc
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Then were did Fylnn's information and everybody else that has been published in papers (which the FBI says is mostly wrong) come from?
I don't know specifically how it got to the press, what does that have to do with Trump's tweets...
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Again.. Under what laws was this allowed?
I don't really know, Internet traffic flows through a variety of public/private/quasi pipes. Not sure what the FBI would need to get access to traffic logs. They likely have access to entry points into the country and are constantly looking at traffic.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 12:48 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:48 am to JuiceTerry
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No, clearly Russian officials were under surveillance.
Then were did Fylnn's information
He literally just told you. frickin hell, man
I see. So the IC or somebody used illegal methods.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:52 am to mmcgrath
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some got deleted
Ahhhh...the old democrat email line?
You learn bigly. You are so far up his jock right now you smell what he had for dinner.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:54 am to ForeLSU
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Then were did Fylnn's information and everybody else that has been published in papers (which the FBI says is mostly wrong) come from?
I don't know specifically how it got to the press, what does that have to do with Trump's tweets...
Everything. There is no way Flynn's name should have been even in the conversation. It's called unmasking.
So it comes down to, who broke the law in the IC? You can't have it both ways.
You can't say there was no surveillance and then say "well there was". If there wasn't, then how did any of this get out. If there was, the Trump is right.
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I don't really know, Internet traffic flows through a variety of public/private/quasi pipes. Not sure what the FBI would need to get access to traffic logs. They likely have access to entry points into the country and are constantly looking at traffic.
To monitor any US citizen would require a FISA. If not, it's illegal.
Either way, legal or illegal, the the leaks are a major felony.
Now you tell me how this ends well?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:00 am to omegaman66
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Are they saying no wiretaps based on semantics?
Great question.
I believe the media is playing that. I think the IC is trying to find a way to save face in the WORLD and with the US public.
The FBI/Comey has done more to hurt the public opinion of them in the past year, they don't need this bad publicity.
If the Russians were influencing the US election, COMEY was a huge pawn in it.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:00 am to Jjdoc
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You can't say there was no surveillance and then say "well there was". If there wasn't, then how did any of this get out. If there was, the Trump is right.
If Flynn was picked up while Russian communications were being monitored, how was Trump right?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:02 am to Jjdoc
How many times do you have to hear that the surveillance was on the Russian? Just because there was a leak has nothing to do with Trump's retardedness. Get a grip, dude.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:07 am to ForeLSU
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If Flynn was picked up while Russian communications were being monitored, how was Trump right?
Because that's not legal. In fact it's a major illegal thing. You can not get his name as a American Citizen and use it.
They can go to a court and say, "We got this in observing these people. We want to make sure there is nothing else, we need a warrant." That equals a FISA Warrant. That equals Trump camp being "wire tapped".
There is no other alternative without ILLEGAL actions being taken except one. That leads directly to the President.
Either way.... Trump and his team was under surveillance by somebody. That's not some reach. So I am asking again, can you or anybody give me an alternative that works?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:10 am to CelticDog
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you are more worried about what people did to defend the USA against Russian influence than the fact that Trump was colluding with a foreign power.
Link?
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you are summarized in todays questions. The GOP wanted to know about surveillance. The Dems want to know what Trump did to bring about the Russian manipulation of the election
If you watched the hearing, you would understand Trump did nothing to "bring about" the hacking. Both Comey and Rogers testified that Russia was doing it regardless. They didn't even expect Trump to win. They also said that Russia has been interfering in our elections for "decades" (quoting Rogers).
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:12 am to JuiceTerry
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How many times do you have to hear that the surveillance was on the Russian? Just because there was a leak has nothing to do with Trump's retardedness. Get a grip, dude.
And How many times do you have to hear that if you are correct, some major laws were broken? Thus you can not have it both ways.
Evidence will have to be produced, or the Comey years are done, and the FBI will have a negative image.
I understand your desire for it to be just by chance, but we all know that it's not. There is no way they could have come to the conclusion that there was no collusion thus far with out a proper FISA.
Once that Fisa is produced, it HAS to show Trump and his team were being watched. If it does NOT, then you have a lot of people about to go to jail!
There is NO other option.
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