re: Huge questions arise from today's testimony that may hurt the left and IC

Nobody is spamming the board. You don't want to talk about current issues... don't click on the thread.

Nice! It's true.

Oh so you're a bald faced liar.

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the fact that Trump was colluding with a foreign power.

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what Trump did to bring about the Russian manipulation of the election.

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Liar.

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Again. We know that communications between those associates were intercepted.

Why do they keep asking questions, that we know the answer to, and pretending they are some unique gotcha questions instead?

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You seem a reasonable fellow. So let's discuss

I was a criminal investigator in the Army, rose to the rank of Lt Col, I was up for another promotion but retired , not wanting to deal with the politics of higher rank.

Anyway, I tell you that to establish my knowledge of how investigations work.

First of all, a FISA warrant wouldn't be required to spy on the Russian Ambassador, he can be wiretapped , and eavesdropped on at will, without any warrant because the Russian Embassy is in effect foreign land and so our Constitution and laws don't apply there.

So, we start with the premise that Flynn , and possibly others were caught on that surveillance talking to the Russian Ambassador, and perhaps other Russians.

That alone simply is not enough to begin an investigation into anything. It is NOT illegal to talk to Russians.

So, we know an investigation was started, so we must either assume that the FBI had other evidence to suggest an investigation was appropriate , or we must assume that it is purely a political hit job.

In EITHER case, I can tell you for fact that if you are investigating someone for a possible criminal conspiracy with a foreign government you are going to do a few things. You ARE going to get warrants to surveil their phones, emails, and texts. You ARE going to have them watched. You ARE going to get warrants to look into their bank records, you ARE going to get warrants to look at their computer systems.

If none of this was done, what the hell kinda investigation is Comey running over there?

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I bet your job was so cool. I'm pretty jealous.

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Don't let the TV shows fool you, most of the time it was boring tedious paperwork.

Perhaps that's because neither DNI Director Clapper or CIA Director Morell have ever been briefed on the FBI counterintelligence investigation by Comey.

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The Russians did hack Podesta’s email account and the DNC

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This may be true but no one has provided a shred of evidence to back it up. The Crowdstrike narrative is full of mischaracterizations and outright lies. Throw in the fact that they wiped the servers to avoid any conflicting opinion and it is far, far more likely that the DNC emails came from an internal source as Assange and others have attested. I haven't even seen any serious accusation that Podesta was fished by Russian agents, just anonymous online speculation. The birther theory was at least based on his grandmother's infamous statement that she held him in her arms the night he was born. The Russian hacking narrative is on much thinner ground, even leaving out the collusion nonsense.

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Not one person is going to like the fact that the FBI was actively surveillance Trump not because they like him.... but because it looks political. But he has nowhere to go with this.

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i think your wrong there comrade Jdoc. The vast majority of Americans want this investigated and for the truth to come out. If something comes definitive does comout of it then everyone with half a brain is going to realize that trump and his associates were investigated for reasons of national security.

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That alone simply is not enough to begin an investigation into anything. It is NOT illegal to talk to Russians.

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what if the context of said calls were enough to initiate an investigation? If the calls were so innocent then why did Flynn and the WH lie about it?