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re: "I'm not going to let this happen without Iberville getting its fair share."
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:09 pm to Hammertime
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:09 pm to Hammertime
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Hammertime
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The feds control the basin. It wouldn't happen because of them, not us
USACE issues permits for all sorts of public works projects all the time in environmentally sensitive areas. You couldn't be more incorrect about your stance here.
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:12 pm to LSUBoo
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No, it's not.
I think serious consideration needs to be given towards the possibility building the BUMP proposal with Airline. That's the easiest route to I-12 and the best way to direct traffic to the underutilized Huey Long bridge on the north side, while this new southern bridge would help cut south side traffic from I-10.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:24 pm to LSU316
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So to do this we propose a solution that only they will use?
No, I'm saying it's killing 2 birds with one stone.
It relieves LA1/bridge traffic and provides a good location for a future loop corridor.
And, yes, the Audubon bridge is retarded.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:25 pm to LSU316
quote:Serious question: while it should be relatively easy to see where bridge traffic is coming *from*, how do you accurately assess where it is going? No one's ever asked me what the heck I'm doing to add to the problem on the Baton Rouge Expressway.
how analytical data is supposed to be delivered
Seems one could just overlay some form of plot of the all the routes taken in a period (average day or peak usage?) on a map, and thus determine which new-bridge location would best serve to move the majority of routes off the current path.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:29 pm to LSU316
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going to make it really hard to eventually connect to I-12
In a perfect world, you would have a loop that eventually meets up with I-12. But that is billions of dollars we will never have.
This isn't that hard. It's simple really. Connect the bypass to I-10 eastbound in WBR. Those wanting to head toward New Orleans exit and use the bypass. Those wanting to reach I-12 and points east, stay on I-10 and use the old bridge.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:30 pm to DoctorTechnical
Unfortunately, there's no avoiding the fact that I-10 in Baton Rouge has to be widened. The infrastructure is so bad here that both a new bridge crossing around Plaquemine and the I-10 project is needed.
LADOTD plan to improve I-10 between LA415 and I-12
LADOTD plan to improve I-10 between LA415 and I-12
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:32 pm to GFunk
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USACE issues permits for all sorts of public works projects all the time in environmentally sensitive areas. You couldn't be more incorrect about your stance here.
Yep, but their permits are typically very politically motivated
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:34 pm to Slippy
The real issue is that the only site that makes sense (Plaquamine point) has been ruled out of the question.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:35 pm to Hammertime
I don't see where that is in the basin.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:37 pm to member12
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I think serious consideration needs to be given towards the possibility building the BUMP proposal with Airline. That's the easiest route to I-12 and the best way to direct traffic to the underutilized Huey Long bridge on the north side, while this new southern bridge would help cut south side traffic from I-10.
Airline is certainly due to be modernized from Florida to the i110 interchange just to improve local north / south traffic. It's already 6 lanes in some sections, but deteriorates past Florida Blvd. Too many lights. Lanes are too narrow. Subpar road conditions, crap cloverleaf interchanges, etc.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:41 pm to DoctorTechnical
The big destinations for traffic on I-10 are:
State government workers going to and from downtown to their homes in sbr, ap, and lp.
Exxon workers
Dow workers in plaquamine
Through traffic typically going east/west on 10/12
Students
Port workers
Dow workers put a huge strain on I-10, LA-1, and the sunshine bridge because there is no bridge near the plant. A bridge at Plaquamine point would be ideal for them.
State government workers going to and from downtown to their homes in sbr, ap, and lp.
Exxon workers
Dow workers in plaquamine
Through traffic typically going east/west on 10/12
Students
Port workers
Dow workers put a huge strain on I-10, LA-1, and the sunshine bridge because there is no bridge near the plant. A bridge at Plaquamine point would be ideal for them.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:42 pm to Slippy
Isn't the State operating in a deficit and looking for ways to cut costs. I know what we can do to help and take some of the burden off of the State...
Talk about pissing away money
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the parish is spending approximately $2,500 a month on consultants with the TJC Group to help lobby state leaders on the parish's behalf
Talk about pissing away money
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:46 pm to kingbob
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The real issue is that the only site that makes sense (Plaquamine point) has been ruled out of the question.
Why?
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:50 pm to Slippy
I think we should start riots until we get a new bridge and interstate system. 
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:50 pm to Slippy
Only thing they need to do is update the old bridge like they did for the Huey p bridge in Nola. And add interstate grade roads in WBR from it to gross fete & I10. Then upgrade airline highway to interstate grade from old bridge to I12 in BR
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:52 pm to longtooth
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but deteriorates past Florida Blvd. Too many lights. Lanes are too narrow. Subpar road conditions, crap cloverleaf interchanges, etc.
This pretty much sums up Louisiana roads.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:57 pm to Slippy
A bridge north of Plaquemine would create create traffic back ups on both sides of the river. A bridge south of Plaquemine would split the traffic (I-12 crowd and I-10 crowd) mostly in half. The north bridge would come out and create even more surface street problems in an already crowded area. Large majority would be headed south and create another headache. The south bridge would hit the east side in low traffic area and would see a bigger split in traffic. It would split south to Ascension, east to South BR, and North to LSU.
Peewee wants to put it just inside his parish line so WBR can reap the benefits of a bridge. Mitchell is just an a-hole but his proposal would be more beneficial for west side traffic.
Peewee wants to put it just inside his parish line so WBR can reap the benefits of a bridge. Mitchell is just an a-hole but his proposal would be more beneficial for west side traffic.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:59 pm to Slippy
This wouldn't bother me.. I'd like to see it in BG.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:07 pm to AllemanWC
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Mitchell is just an a-hole but his proposal would be more beneficial for west side traffic.
The goal is to alleviate traffic from I-10....not the sunshine bridge.
It's way too far south. The obvious crossing point is Plaquemine.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:18 pm to member12
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Trust me. New Roads and St. Francisville do not want to be "boom towns".
I used to live in this area and you are totally correct in your statement. The location of the bridge was moved further south of St. Francisville from the originally proposed location partly because the town didn't want the bridge or the traffic from the bridge to interfere with the whole historical aspect of the town. Also, as I understood it, that bridge was originally sought out to provide a crossing on the river for employees coming from the west side to the plants (paper mills, nuclear plant, etc..) and Angola Prison on the east side and for those coming from the east to the west for Big Cajun to replace the ferry crossing that was there at the time, which was pretty unreliable. I don't think alleviating traffic problems in Baton Rouge was in mind when the idea was originally proposed, which was probably like 40 years ago, and I think people label it as failure partly because it hasn't helped traffic issues at the Baton Rouge river crossings.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 1:24 pm
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