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why can't American car companies compete on reliability
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:26 pm
simple question. with all the resources in the greatest nation on earth, why can't we compete with other major car producing nations in terms of reliability (excluding the british)? i mean, cant our car manufacturers not afford to pay for the best engineers on the planet?
The 8 most reliable car brands according to Consumer Reports
The only American car company is Buick, and Buick is basically engineered by Opel.
and dont come off with "this list is crap cuz Lexus and Infiniti sucks lolz." this is the 2016 rankings not 1994.
The 8 most reliable car brands according to Consumer Reports
The only American car company is Buick, and Buick is basically engineered by Opel.
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8. Infiniti
7. Hyundai
6. Mazda
5. Kia
4. Audi
3. Buick
2. Toyota
1. Lexus
and dont come off with "this list is crap cuz Lexus and Infiniti sucks lolz." this is the 2016 rankings not 1994.
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:26 pm to Honky Lips
Unions.
ETA: They also sell a lot more vehicles here than they do oversees, so they're bound to have more instances of vehicles breaking down. Ford's European vehicles are pretty well regarded.
ETA: They also sell a lot more vehicles here than they do oversees, so they're bound to have more instances of vehicles breaking down. Ford's European vehicles are pretty well regarded.
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:27 pm to Honky Lips
Unions
Eta: shite
Eta: shite
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:28 pm to Honky Lips
Maybe enough of the American public is brainwashed into 'buy American' that they don't have to be as reliable?
Maybe not. Just a theory.
Maybe not. Just a theory.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:28 pm to Honky Lips
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This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:28 pm to Honky Lips
Aren't Toyota and Lexus the same damn thing?
If Buick makes the list, why not Chevrolet? Again, same company.
If Buick makes the list, why not Chevrolet? Again, same company.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:31 pm to Honky Lips
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why can't American car companies compete on reliability
But what about those chevy commercials that say chevy is number 1 in JD Power (whoever the frick he is) reliability for like, a million years in a row. Apparently ole JD and Consumer Reports are using different standards.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:32 pm to Honky Lips
Inb4 they manufacture some cars that were on that list.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:32 pm to Honky Lips
Audi being that hi surprised me. buicks are ugly as shite.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:32 pm to Honky Lips
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based on information gathered from the publication's subscribers who have "owned or leased over half a million vehicles, from model years 2000 to 2016, with a smattering of 2017s, covering more than 300 models."
In total, 29 brands were ranked in the survey. Consumer Reports categorized the top eight brands as "more reliable" while brands ranked nine through 18 were classified as "reliable." The 11 brands at the bottom of the rankings were categorized as "less reliable."
Sounds like an unquestionable study to me...
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:34 pm to Honky Lips
It's management culture. What is considered an "acceptable defect" is very different in the company cultures of some of the more popular import brands than the American brands. They simply refuse to tolerate defects to the same extent we do.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:36 pm to Honky Lips
how many of those car companies are being investigated or facing huge fines for fraud to Americans?
Or have in past few years?
And Consumer Reports is hardly an unbiased opinion.
Have bought Jeep/Dodge products for 20 years, not one single issue with any of them.
Or have in past few years?
And Consumer Reports is hardly an unbiased opinion.
Have bought Jeep/Dodge products for 20 years, not one single issue with any of them.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:39 pm to Honky Lips
Not many people are going to abuse a Lexus like they will a Silverado. You can say that for most of this list. Not many work vehicles in there. Or what about pulling trailers, doing work, gravel and mud roads, straining the engine pulling loads up hills. It's not apples to apples. Ford sells a million trucks, 200,000 get abused to shite. Not that way with Lexus, Buick, Audi, whoever....
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:40 pm to Honky Lips
Piss poor management and Japan has a different business midweek than being beholden to shareholders. But simpleton will blame the unions.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:41 pm to Honky Lips
Something to keep in mind about "reliability' reports is those ratings nowadays include a category such as consumers ability to use feature. Ford had a high reliability one year then the next year when that category was incorporated, dropped big time due to Sync. FYI Ford was tied with Honda and Subaru for long term reliability while trailing Toyota.
One other thing to remember and it's also why a list like the OP has changes often is because it's done by surveys which do have a degree of unreliableness associated with them.
One other thing to remember and it's also why a list like the OP has changes often is because it's done by surveys which do have a degree of unreliableness associated with them.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:46 pm to Honky Lips
Audi being that high is suspect.
My mom's A6 had tons if problems. And the top had to be changed out twice in five years.
My uncle's A7 has been in for maintenance a good bit as well.
My mom's A6 had tons if problems. And the top had to be changed out twice in five years.
My uncle's A7 has been in for maintenance a good bit as well.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:47 pm to Honky Lips
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6. Mazda 5. Kia 4. Audi 3. Buick
biggest bs on the OT all day...this list is nothing without Honda
Posted on 2/16/17 at 3:46 pm to Honky Lips
Seems like Honda should be on that list
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