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Those who support the injunction against Trump
Posted on 2/4/17 at 7:43 am
Posted on 2/4/17 at 7:43 am
Why? You expose yourselves as not putting the country's safety ahead of your politics. That is really sad. You have no concern for these refugees. All you care about is salivating over the fact that Trump is being stymied in his approach to find a way to make this country just a couple of notches safer for its citizens.
It's a very very disgusting and dangerous game you're playing here just for the sake of politics. I guess it will take another 9/11 to bring some of you to your senses. Enjoy your moment of political posturing when it happens.
It's a very very disgusting and dangerous game you're playing here just for the sake of politics. I guess it will take another 9/11 to bring some of you to your senses. Enjoy your moment of political posturing when it happens.
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 7:44 am to Homesick Tiger
It's a dangerous dance. If someone comes in over the next weekish until this is fixed and kills someone, they will be done forever.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 7:57 am to Homesick Tiger
You think banning Microsoft engineers and Sytian doctors is making us safer becsuse Trump says it does? You are just as bad as the people you're disparaging You would blindly follow Trump off a cliff if he told you. And if he was really so intetested in protecting this country why didnt he ban countries that have actually committed terrorist acts against us?
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:16 am to Homesick Tiger
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Why? You expose yourselves as not putting the country's safety ahead of your politics. That is really sad. You have no concern for these refugees. All you care about is salivating over the fact that Trump is being stymied in his approach to find a way to make this country just a couple of notches safer for its citizens.
How did we ever get to the point where Americans are more concerned for the needs of immigrants than the safety of its citizens?
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:32 am to Homesick Tiger
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You expose yourselves as not putting the country's safety ahead of your politics.
stop. This EO has nothing to do with "Protecting America"Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:38 am to Homesick Tiger
So, liberals are in favor of unelected magistrates rulings over their duly elected leaders. Sounds like a good old monarchy is their game. This country does NOT deserve freedom, and by the looks of it, neither does it deserve safety either.
Ahh, but the life lessons will be very difficult to endure I am afraid.
Ahh, but the life lessons will be very difficult to endure I am afraid.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:40 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:When did so many people become so afraid? You guys panic and crawl into a fetal position at every loud noise.
You expose yourselves as not putting the country's safety ahead of your politics.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:15 am to Homesick Tiger
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Why?
Trump's ban makes us less safe, harms us economically, and does direct harm to those we should seek to protect.
You're disgusting, that you don't want children to be able to seek proper medical care because they're Muslim.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:19 am to Homesick Tiger
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You expose yourselves as not putting the country's safety ahead of your politics.
That is EXACTLY what Trump did when he carved out loopholes for Saudi Arabia and Egypt, where terrorists have actually come from and killed citizens here. You think he's putting you first or his business first?
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:23 am to Homesick Tiger
I don't have a problem with tightening restrictions on refugees and immigrants from certain areas of the country. This particular EO was obviously rushed out without proper vetting, hence the legal challenges to it, and it being struck down by a few different courts. It's a case of the ends not justifying the means. I'm not a legal scholar so not qualified to argue the legal merits of it. If the Trump team wants to go back to the drawing board and craft one that would pass legal muster, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:54 am to Homesick Tiger
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the injunction against Trump
is an injunction against America
and I for one am not going to stand around and listen to a bunch of people badmouthing the United States of America!
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:58 am to Homesick Tiger
I support the law. EOs aren't law. I support the constitution and our system of checks and balances are set up the way they are to prevent the Executive Branch from overstepping its authority.
I honestly don't care if the President's EO "made us safer" and the judge "made us less safe". The theoretical pursuit of increased safety from a threat that the President has blown out of proportion in order to solidify support from his simple minded base is not justification for ignoring law.
If the federal judge made a mistake it'll be corrected at a higher court. That's the way the system works.
There are way too many "Constitutional Conservatives" in this country and on this site that would be on board with giving Trump the power to do whatever the hell he wants with no checks to his power.
Your chance of being the victim of a terrorist attack is less than your God smiting you with lightning.
Stop being sheep.
I honestly don't care if the President's EO "made us safer" and the judge "made us less safe". The theoretical pursuit of increased safety from a threat that the President has blown out of proportion in order to solidify support from his simple minded base is not justification for ignoring law.
If the federal judge made a mistake it'll be corrected at a higher court. That's the way the system works.
There are way too many "Constitutional Conservatives" in this country and on this site that would be on board with giving Trump the power to do whatever the hell he wants with no checks to his power.
Your chance of being the victim of a terrorist attack is less than your God smiting you with lightning.
Stop being sheep.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 10:07 am
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:04 am to Homesick Tiger
The safety argument really is hollow when the countries included omit those most tied to us terrorist activity.
If trump was really the bold person people think he is and he claims to be then saudi arabia, uae, etc would be on the list.
Even in that scenario its highly questionable how effective and reasonable this is
If trump was really the bold person people think he is and he claims to be then saudi arabia, uae, etc would be on the list.
Even in that scenario its highly questionable how effective and reasonable this is
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:06 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:My politics are liberty. I plead guilty to not putting security over liberty.
You expose yourselves as not putting the country's safety ahead of your politics.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:30 am to Homesick Tiger
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You expose yourselves as not putting the country's safety ahead of your politics.
You aren't concerned one but with America's safety. The day after SandyHook, the entire country should have been on board with banning assault weapons. All this board did was champion the rights of gun owners and want to give the schools themselves guns after 20 kids were killed by a mentally ill white kid.
Now I'm supposed to be scared of something a Syrian refugee "might do" as opposed to the countless domestic attacks that have been committed by American citizens?
Please.... Spare me your fake concern for America's safety when "politics" on the Right get in the way of banning assault rifles and other weapons used to take mass lives in this country
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:41 am to Homesick Tiger
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Why? You expose yourselves as not putting the country's safety ahead of your politics.
Hilarious.
Oh, wait. You actually think the refugee ban will make the US safer.
L to the OL
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:56 am to Homesick Tiger
I support the ban, but Trump has been his own worst enemy. From day one of his campaign, he should have only talked about banning people from certain countries. When making his announcement on this EO, his first sentence should have mentioned Obama's name and he should have mentioned Obama's 2011 ban on Iraqis and Obama's classification of the seven countries. And it never, ever should have included people with valid visas. You want to start making visas harder to get...great. But you don't detain someone with a valid visa who just got off a plane. There was little if any input from DOS or DHS officials.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:57 am to Homesick Tiger
I like you as a poster but... Are you really suggesting that anyone who didnt agree with Trump's EO as written is against public safety?
I remember the last time conservatives had the white house. There was this same "if you arent with us you are against us" attitude with 9/11 and then iraq...
I am not so fearful of terrorism that i am willing to turn my back on true Americanism to feel safer. frick the terrorists. They win of they destroy our values. The patriot act was Bin Laden's greatest victory
I remember the last time conservatives had the white house. There was this same "if you arent with us you are against us" attitude with 9/11 and then iraq...
I am not so fearful of terrorism that i am willing to turn my back on true Americanism to feel safer. frick the terrorists. They win of they destroy our values. The patriot act was Bin Laden's greatest victory
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:05 pm to Homesick Tiger
I think we should cut ties with Arabia, but money Trumps safety.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:09 pm to Homesick Tiger
Stopping those countries isn't enough.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 1:10 pm
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