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re: Private Schools Should be Privately Funded
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:58 pm to HonoraryCoonass
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:58 pm to HonoraryCoonass
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Exactly. The government is much better with money.
Well the same amount of money in a for profit scenario sounds disingenuous.
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:07 pm to 31TIGERS
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I agree that I shouldn't have to pay taxes that go to local public schools that are complete garbage.
What other public services that you don't use do you think you should get a rebate on your taxes for?
The notion that you only get a benefit for your tax dollars if you actually choose to send your own kids to a public school is incredibly foolish and short-sighted. There is a very obvious public interest in educating kids that benefits all tax paying citizens.
Try making it through the week without needing the services of educated people.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:11 pm to BamaGradinTn
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What other public services that you don't use do you think you should get a rebate on your taxes for?
The notion that you only get a benefit for your tax dollars if you actually choose to send your own kids to a public school is incredibly foolish and short-sighted. There is a very obvious public interest in educating kids that benefits all tax paying citizens.
Try making it through the week without needing the services of educated people.
Youre right but they dont care. They're selfish dumbasses that like to pretend they dont need to live in a society of educated people. Meanwhile trillions are spent on foreign wars that benefit them in no way
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:14 pm to Ebbandflow
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Meanwhile trillions are spent on foreign wars that benefit them in no way
Even for those who are big supporters of the military...you would think they would want our troops to at least be literate enough to read a fricking manual. Or a map. Try that without public education.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:15 pm to Quidam65
Which has authority?
Freedom of religion or separation of church and state?
We don't control where people spend their food stamps. We don't control the religion of people getting SS benefits.
If you get a school choice voucher and want to go to the baptist or muslim school of your choice...
....is that any different in receiving student financial aid to attend Notre Dame or Liberty or any religious college?
Freedom of religion or separation of church and state?
We don't control where people spend their food stamps. We don't control the religion of people getting SS benefits.
If you get a school choice voucher and want to go to the baptist or muslim school of your choice...
....is that any different in receiving student financial aid to attend Notre Dame or Liberty or any religious college?
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:19 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Even for those who are big supporters of the military...you would think they would want our troops to at least be literate enough to read a fricking manual. Or a map. Try that without public education.
Exactly. I believe that some things shouldn't be privatized: Jails, Schools, Healthcare etc. But here we are with a bunch of drones, most of which don't even have any money, eating the profiteer bs up like a hungry fat kid.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:22 pm to AggieDub14
quote:Here's what I see happening:
Can someone please explain to me why publicly funded charter schools are a good idea?
The left always scores with money to public schools. Easy to pull the heart strings there. These are, after all, our children. And they've gone so far overboard that they're just throwing money at problems, and the general investment is not granting anything close to a justifying return.
The right, understandably, has grown tired of this, and they are in a pickle with this because the only way to fix this problem ethically is to somehow convince America to give LESS to our children. Our children, dammit. Our children.
So even though less money to public schools makes perfect mathematical sense, it's hard as shite to win an election with that on the agenda. So the right has chosen a back door tactic to remedy the situation. That is, they are trying to grant the taxpayer the right to say "Well if you're going to jack way too much of my money, I should have a say on how I'm to consume the goods and services it affords me." And that's the voucher program in a nutshell.
Good idea? I don't know—probably not. But this is why I say frick the left for taxing too much.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:23 pm to BamaGradinTn
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The notion that you only get a benefit for your tax dollars if you actually choose to send your own kids to a public school is incredibly foolish and short-sighted. There is a very obvious public interest in educating kids that benefits all tax paying citizens.
We also should expect a better product for the money. School choice is a necessary ingredient
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:34 pm to Ebbandflow
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ebbandflow is a useless dumbass that likes to be lead by its nose and give its money to the government that doesn't know how to properly manage it. Typical of living in a society of mentally deranged liberals.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The notion that you only get a benefit for your tax dollars if you actually choose to send your own kids to a public school is incredibly foolish and short-sighted. There is a very obvious public interest in educating kids that benefits all tax paying citizens.
We also should expect a better product for the money. School choice is a necessary ingredient
Sure, we should expect a better product. I'm just pointing out how obviously stupid it is to think that parents who choose private education still don't have an obligation to financially support public schools with their tax dollars.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:47 pm to BamaGradinTn
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The notion that you only get a benefit for your tax dollars if you actually choose to send your own kids to a public school is incredibly foolish and short-sighted. There is a very obvious public interest in educating kids that benefits all tax paying citizens. Try making it through the week without needing the services of educated people.
More services should and need to be privatized and taken from the government all together. The government has their F'N hands in way too much crap already. And once the government gets involved everything goes to crap. See the post office for a prime example.
I send my kids to private school for a better education and a much better environment. That's my money and I'll spend it how I see fit. You don't like it? Tough shite. The unfortunate thing about it is that I still have to pay school board taxes that fund complete garbage public school systems that I have no use for.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:53 pm to BamaGradinTn
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I'm just pointing out how obviously stupid it is to think that parents who choose private education still don't have an obligation to financially support public schools with their tax dollars.
Please do tell me why in the hell is it my obligation to support someone else besides my own family. Are you retarded or something? I already know the answer to that question. You freaks are really mentally insane to even remotely think that someone HAS an obligation to support some garbage like a public school system. If it weren't for theft by taxation I can PROMISE you if I could avoid giving a penny to public school systems I'd do so in a millisecond. You freaks need some serious help.
I think is blatantly stupid to think that one is obligated to support something through paying taxes.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 1/24/17 at 12:37 am to BamaGradinTn
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Sure, we should expect a better product. I'm just pointing out how obviously stupid it is to think that parents who choose private education still don't have an obligation to financially support public schools with their tax dollars.
I disagree with your choice of the word obligation. If you meant that they would benefit it would make more sense
Posted on 1/24/17 at 12:49 am to AggieDub14
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lie about attendance
This is impossible in Louisiana. All schools, public and private, have to report their active students on October 1 and Feb 1. If any students are in the system twice with different schools, then neither school will receive funding for that student until the issue is solved.
If controlled by people with the right intentions and with a solid curriculum, then charter schools are great. Unfortunately, with a little more autonomy, some school leaders tend to get a little lax and selfish.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:27 am to AggieDub14
quote:lol, you are describing the public education system. Do you have any idea how little return on investment we get in the US for what we spend per student in public school? After adjusting for GDP, the US is 4th in the world on spending per student, and yet our kids come out of school not knowing how to think. Public school has become more about indoctrination of liberal social values than preparing children for the world. The teachers union is one of the most powerful lobbies on Capital Hill, and is also one of the most radically leftist. It's also quite mobbed up, especially in state's like Florida that have ceded complete control of educational funding, staffing to union control.
IMO they are begging for corruption and waste of taxpayers dollars.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:36 am to crazyatthecamp
quote:separation of church and state has come to mean something radically different than its original intent. Separation of church and state was originally constructed as a limitation on government interfering with religious expression in any arena public or private or setting up or mandating a particular religious observance. The limitation is always meant to be on the actions of goverment, not the actions of citizens. It has has been twisted into the exact opposite from its intention.
Which has authority?
Freedom of religion or separation of church and state?
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 2:37 am
Posted on 1/24/17 at 4:25 am to AggieDub14
The more proper question is why should the government be in the school operation business?
Why should people be at the whim of some bureacrat to receive the publicly funded education they are taxed for?
Why should some bureaucrat be in the position to force your kids into a school?
Why do government elites get preferential treatment? Why isn't JBE's son in EBR public schools? How did he get to choice the lab school?
All families should get vouchers and all schools should be free to run themselves as they please.
We are blowing billions on the education bureaucracy.
Charter and private schools deliver what their customers want or they shut down.
Government schools deliver what the bureaucracy wants and never close regardless of performance.
Why should people be at the whim of some bureacrat to receive the publicly funded education they are taxed for?
Why should some bureaucrat be in the position to force your kids into a school?
Why do government elites get preferential treatment? Why isn't JBE's son in EBR public schools? How did he get to choice the lab school?
All families should get vouchers and all schools should be free to run themselves as they please.
We are blowing billions on the education bureaucracy.
Charter and private schools deliver what their customers want or they shut down.
Government schools deliver what the bureaucracy wants and never close regardless of performance.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 4:32 am
Posted on 1/24/17 at 4:38 am to TBoy
That is complete BS.
People who profit from the government schools cannot stand the popularity of charter schools and vouchers. They invent crap to say about charter schools and ignore the fact almost all charter schools and voucher programs have waiting list of people trying to take part.
Take the public schools private--free them from the red tape they have to operate under and give vouchers to every family.
People who profit from the government schools cannot stand the popularity of charter schools and vouchers. They invent crap to say about charter schools and ignore the fact almost all charter schools and voucher programs have waiting list of people trying to take part.
Take the public schools private--free them from the red tape they have to operate under and give vouchers to every family.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 6:25 am to the808bass
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You introduce me to a Democrat serious about fixing what we have, and I'll show you someone about to be kicked out of their party.
Democrats think like the person at SUNO during that whole controversy. "Our schools don't have to graduate anyone"
Posted on 1/24/17 at 6:26 am to BamaGradinTn
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I'm just pointing out how obviously stupid it is to think that parents who choose private education still don't have an obligation to financially support public schools with their tax dollars.
What the frick?
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