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re: LOL snopes LOL 2016 election map by county OH BOY WE LOVE FACT CHECKERS
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:56 am to CAD703X
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:56 am to CAD703X
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guess my ol eyes deceived me then because i sure thought i was at snopes.com when i pulled that up.
The map is from the Department of Physics and Center for the Study of Complex Systems, University of Michigan.
Come on, man.
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:58 am to CAD703X
Second pic looks like the US is.....
....melting?
....melting?
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:58 am to Mo Jeaux
y'all are thin skinned.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:58 am to Mo Jeaux
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I'm no fan of Snopes, but what's so funny about using a cartogram here?
Because in winner-take-all elections, magnitude is irrelevant. We've been doing this for 226 years, but the media is apparently still having troubles understanding it.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:59 am to Vacherie Saint
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This is pointless. The popular vote happens at the state level. NY, for example, had 46 red counties to 15 blue yet went solidly to HRC.
If you don't want a handful of large population centers picking the president in a big, diverse nation like ours, you should support the fed level EC or something similar to it. A nationwide popular vote would alienate most Americans.
Exactly. Thank God for the Electoral college and the Republic in which we live..otherwise places like Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, and Houston would determine who leads this country...the landowners (since land doesn't vote) wouldn't stand a chance.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 10:59 am to CAD703X
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y'all are thin skinned.
we are not the ones melting about simple maps
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:01 am to ApexTiger
wait ...
you mean to tell me people use different types of maps/graphs/illustrations for different perspectives, based on their own beliefs? ...
you trumpettes are seriously insecure ...
you mean to tell me people use different types of maps/graphs/illustrations for different perspectives, based on their own beliefs? ...
you trumpettes are seriously insecure ...
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:01 am to Mo Jeaux
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I'm no fan of Snopes, but what's so funny about using a cartogram here?
My first thought.
Nothing wrong with using a cartogram. Geography is awesome.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:05 am to Salmon
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we are not the ones melting about simple maps
how is laughing at that goofy image melting again?
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:06 am to BamaAtl
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Which is why Trump lost the popular vote by the largest margin ever....for a winner
FIFY
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:07 am to CAD703X
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goofy image
A cartogram is a perfectly acceptable method of displaying a set of data. There is nothing goofy about it.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:07 am to Mo Jeaux
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but I don't think you should ignore the implications of the cartogram
How are those implications any different than just spouting off the popular vote percentages. Because that's all this does is weight the size of the map as per population. Then they color in the votes. So it's now going to show slightly more blue than red. It shows nothing more than what a statement can. But that's not the point of the original map that is nearly completely red.
The original map isn't even intended to show that "more land" won the race. It's intended to show that small geographical areas, which unsurprisingly are going to have similar political beliefs among it's citizens, can control so much area that doesn't agree with them due to population concentration. And you can't just blow that off. We need farmers, we need fisherman, we need people from all geographic areas of our country. And to let certain areas who may only have their well being in mind shouldn't be able to steam roll the rest of the country. It's the whole reasoning behind the Electoral College. It's been an issue since our founding fathers.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:07 am to CAD703X
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how is laughing at that goofy image melting again?
well you were so flustered by the simple map, that
1) you couldn't even figure out the source of it
and
2) you couldn't even figure out the point of the article
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:07 am to GetCocky11
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:08 am to CAD703X
Go down to your local community college and take a GIS class or a Cartography class.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:09 am to Salmon
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flustered
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:10 am to CAD703X
that is an accurate depiction you seeing that map
yes
yes
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:12 am to Salmon
majored in math. want to discuss finite dimensional vector spaces next?Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:13 am to CAD703X
congrats?
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:14 am to therick711
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Because in winner-take-all elections, magnitude is irrelevant.
It's not at all irrelevant. It can provide valuable insight.
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