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re: Pre-existing conditions under ObamaCare

Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:41 pm to
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:41 pm to
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And people like you are sociopaths


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CommoDawg


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Go jack off to Ayn Rand's corpse


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Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55524 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:41 pm to
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And people like you are sociopaths



LOL
O
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Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73307 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:42 pm to
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And people like you are sociopaths




Why?

I'd put money up that I donate more than you. I'm completely fine with helping people that need it. I just don't think the government should force me to do so.
Posted by CaptChandler
Polis
Member since Sep 2016
2427 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:43 pm to
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And people like you are sociopaths


Exhibit A: CommoDawg

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Go jack off to FDR's corpse
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:44 pm to
Well we know who will be losing their meds in a few weeks.
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:48 pm to
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Well we know who will be losing their meds in a few weeks.


Yep! Government dependent bums like commode-dawg show its true colors once again.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 7:50 pm
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:49 pm to
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When the insurance companies get to decide who lives and who dies, I want every Republican voter to say, "That's how it should be."

Wasn't this widely discussed as part of ACA in the beginning before it got into the public domain? You should google it, because I certainly remember a bunch of Repubs warning against it...you know if the gubment got to make choices for us.

They do this for me now in Medicare and some of it isn't the best choice.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:54 pm to
We should have a system where all Americans can get free health screenings, and meds for common illnesses. If you want more coverage, then buy private insurance
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73307 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:55 pm to
Yep. Look at the frickery with the VA for a great example of government controlled healthcare.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:17 pm to
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Gotta keep this part of law -- agreed? Also, like the portion of the law that requires losers who don't carry insurance to pay tax penalty to cover the cost burden on the rest of us when they walk into a charity clinic.





Whatever the GOP comes up with it is going to be identical in every aspect but name to Obamacare....every single GOP health reform bill proposed since at least Nixon was in office included some form of individual mandate, the creation of pools of buyers, a list of standardized benefits, some ban on pre-existing conditions and some form of financial assistance to the poor.

The one thing that they are going to add is they are going to limit how much liability providers have in malpractice cases. They can call it anything they like it is the barest of bare bones conservative healthcare bill and short of simply tossing 20 million people out of any insurance they are going to repeal and replicate because there really ain't much between Obamacare and the status quo....
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55524 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:19 pm to
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The one thing that they are going to add is they are going to limit how much liability providers have in malpractice cases


I welcome any of the resident physicians to chime in here - but I have a relative who is a very respected orthopaedic surgeon and he claims (I can't verify, of course) that his malpractice insurance runs in the multiple six figures annually. No wonder that shite costs so much.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22040 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:20 pm to
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Get rid of it all, start over, and do better this time.


Find something demonstrably better, and even Obama will support it. Problem is, Republicans have nothing better.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22040 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:20 pm to
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High risk pools at the state level weren't all that much more expensive than individual policies for the healthy are now.



They had huge waiting lists, leaving many unable to seek care. No bueno.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22040 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:21 pm to
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Wasn't this widely discussed as part of ACA in the beginning before it got into the public domain?


There was a large disinformation campaign run about 'death panels' in relation to end-of-life care counseling. Hence, that part of the bill was excised, and the cost went up.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73307 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:22 pm to
Answer for Clinton's failures if you want a discussion.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22040 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:22 pm to
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Answer for Clinton's failures if you want a discussion.


Admit the Iraq war was Bush's choice and we can have a discussion about other things.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73307 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:24 pm to
Nothing is happening until you address my points on Clinton. You're deflecting and we both know why.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22040 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:30 pm to
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Nothing is happening until you address my points on Clinton


What points, that you don't like his foreign policy? You introduced those to deflect from your thought that Clinton started the Iraq war. Move on, admit it was Bush's war, and we can begin.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16940 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:32 pm to
Pre-existing is a main culprit of what's killing the plan
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73307 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:34 pm to
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What points, that you don't like his foreign policy?


There were several. Go back and read them. Then address them.

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You introduced those to deflect from your thought that Clinton started the Iraq war.


Nope. The Iraq War was called out after I brought Clinton in.
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