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re: National Champions since 2000 - Locations

Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:05 am to
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:05 am to
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New Jersey


13%- so no

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Illinois


15%

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Michigan


14%

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Ohio


11%

By % it isnt even close as Louisiana is at 32% which is even higher than Maryland at 29%. And only Michigan (barely) and Illinois have a larger total number than Louisiana.

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States like Maryland, New Jersey, Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio have a large African American population. In fact, in terms of sheer numbers, we have more just due to the fact that we have a much bigger population that Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina.

So this isnt true
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:06 am to
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More black people playing football.




Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:06 am to
I think the racial point is relevant. I guess what I'm having trouble with is:

Louisiana's number of African Americans - 1,500,000
Mississippi's number of African Americans - 1,000,000
Alabama's number - 1,250,000

Michigan - 1,400,000
Ohio - 1,400,000
Illinois - 1,900,000

So, the percentages are greater in the Southeast, but the numbers even out. I wonder if it is because our emphasis on basketball? But, you can't do both? I can easily argue that'll make you a better football player (see Clemson's Mike Williams). Weather? That certainly makes sense. It's tough to play football in January and February in Chicago and Detroit.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36721 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:07 am to
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Something so blatantly obvious completely slipped my mind. That's a really good point.



If you want to put some science to it. There are studies showing that training in high heat and high humidity works muscles in similar way to training high altitude
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ne of those conversations led me back to a topic that got some brief attention a few years ago: training in heat to produce big jumps in endurance performance. There was a University of Oregon study back in 2010 that had trained cyclists do 10 days of heat acclimation -- 100 minutes of exercise in the heat each day -- and saw a 5% jump in VO2max measured in cool conditions by the end of study. In other words, heat acclimation doesn't just make you better at dealing with heat; it makes you better, period. The researchers suggested that athletes could use this type of protocol just like they use altitude training camps, as a short-term intervention to improve performance. The study got quite a bit of attention, but I hadn't heard much about athletes and coaches actually adopting the idea.


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turns out there has been more research on this, and elite athletes are definitely using it. A New Zealand study published in 2012 in the European Journal of Applied Physics used elite rowers, and put them through a shorter protocol: just five days, 90 minutes per day. The rowers were in a room at 40 C and 60% humidity, and they rowed at an intensity just sufficient to keep their core temperature at a "modest" overheating level of 38.5 C. The training itself wasn't particularly hard: the goal was to overheat the rowers, not overwork them, and the 5-day acclimation period started two weeks before a major championship competition. The result: a 1.5% increase in 2,000m rowing performance.


LINK


might help explain why everyone that comes from the everglades is fast af. Besides chasing rabbits of course.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 10:09 am
Posted by JB Mac
Heart of Dixie
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:08 am to
OP knows the answer, he's just teeing it up to see someone get banned
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:10 am to
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By % it isnt even close as Louisiana is at 32% which is even higher than Maryland at 29%. And only Michigan (barely) and Illinois have a larger total number than Louisiana.


Actually Maryland and Illinois are the only ones with more than LA according to the 2010 census. Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania are sandwiched in between LA and South Carolina.
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:10 am to
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OP knows the answer, he's just teeing it up to see someone get banned




Not really. My point is simple. The northern states, typically, have similar numbers of African Americans. We may not have the same percentage as we have higher populated areas, but the numbers level out.

What makes the quality so much better in the Southeast?
Posted by maine82
Member since Aug 2011
3320 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:11 am to
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More black people playing football.

That's not racist, it's just true.


I suspect also that there's a rough correlation between how much money you have and how willing you are to let your child play football. There's less money in the River Parishes among black families, and so there's more willingness to let them play a violent sport, because they have less options.

And since Southern states are on average poorer, you would expect more children available to play football.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:11 am to
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he's just teeing it up to see someone get banned



If you get banned discussing this topic then you're legitimately racist. I don't know why it is difficult to discuss without crossing some line.
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:15 am to
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If you get banned discussing this topic then you're legitimately racist. I don't know why it is difficult to discuss without crossing some line.



No shite. This is a great site, but damn, half the posters in threads offer not one morsel of decent discussion. It's just fricking annoying. It's like a speed bump. Too many dipshits.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36721 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:17 am to
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No shite. This is a great site, but damn, half the posters in threads offer not one morsel of decent discussion. It's just fricking annoying. It's like a speed bump. Too many dipshits.



they also act as if chicken is some SJW banning people left and right.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:18 am to
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If you get banned discussing this topic then you're legitimately racist. I don't know why it is difficult to discuss without crossing some line.

I've always found this funny as well. The whole "I don't want to get banned" line is overplayed on this site.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139867 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:21 am to
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Forkbeard3777


I am going to piggy back off my earlier post


So most are discussing the makeup of the squads on this topic.

Why are we not discussing the advantages of location and the advantages of television also? Now that teams are building better than NFL facilities and treating the players better than NFL treats its guys in places such as Oregon, Ohio, Michigan. Do you honestly believe that the pendulum will continue to stay in the South? I do not.

We look at the champions but lets also look at the "losers" of the NCCG?

Off hand there have been 3 from same region, last night, FSU Auburn, and LSU Alabama.

How much different is this conversation are we having if LSU is not playing OU, Ginn does not get hurt, LSU is not in a rematch, etc.

That is why I say this is a cycle that will reverse back, it has been an extraordinary long cycle.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:23 am to
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The whole "I don't want to get banned" line is overplayed on this site.


"I don't want to get banned" is code for "insert something incredibly racist that I don't have the balls to type."
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5307 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:24 am to
As Margaret Sanger would say:
Eugenics.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42574 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:25 am to
I really don't want to get banned. Chris Rock did a stand up on the subject, regarding systemic breeding by the government. As terrible as it sounds, it is the truth. Pull it up and watch it.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:27 am to
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I really don't want to get banned. Chris Rock did a stand up on the subject, regarding systemic breeding by the government. As terrible as it sounds, it is the truth. Pull it up and watch it.




What is ban worthy about discussing slavery and genetics? Some of you are ridiculous.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22486 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:29 am to
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More black people playing football.

That's not racist, it's just true.


And honestly...more slavey blacks. Not those west coast post-1900 black people.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127462 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:30 am to
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States like Maryland, New Jersey, Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio have a large African American population. In fact, in terms of sheer numbers, we have more just due to the fact that we have a much bigger population that Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina.

They're primarily in the cities, and not the rural areas. Total difference from the South.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42574 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:31 am to
Because it always trends that way. I am just answering the OPs question. The US gov did some shady things to increase crop production back in the day.
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