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re: McKnight shooter released from custody...Cliffnotes of Normand press conf inside
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:25 pm to Kcrad
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:25 pm to Kcrad
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Agreed to a point. I think it's a combo of both.
I think your latent homosexuality and white denial has been exposed. If your avatar is you, I'm sure Mike Yenni would give you a look over.
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:28 pm to Kcrad
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Agreed to a point. I think it's a combo of both.
Why?
I'm not sure why it has to be so black and white for everyone, for lack of a better phrase. It is plausible that Gasser reasonably feared for his life even though JM may not have been a physical threat in hindsight. Discussing that possibility doesn't make you a jock sniffer, related to JM, or racked with white guilt.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:33 pm to slackster
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Why?
I'm not sure why it has to be so black and white for everyone, for lack of a better phrase. It is plausible that Gasser reasonably feared for his life even though JM may not have been a physical threat in hindsight. Discussing that possibility doesn't make you a jock sniffer, related to JM, or racked with white guilt.
We are dealing with people who do not understand how grey the world really is. If life were black and white, there would be no debate over any of these sorts of things. Unfortunately, some people don't have the education/mental capacity to process complex ideas.
And so it goes...
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:40 pm to slackster
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McKnight shooter released from custody...Cliffnotes of Normand press conf inside quote: Not white guilt they are just lifelong jock sniffers More realistically, I think people just hate to see a life ended so soon because of road rage. People are discussing that even though Gasser may have acted within the law, it may not have been necessary in hindsight. McKnight could have been killed while he was trying to cause physical harm to Gasser. He also could have been killed while trying to argue with him. I don't think people expect Gasser to know JM's intent, but unless JM intended to cause Gasser physical harm, then it is still a tragic situation.
Slackster
Most of the guys defending McKnight on here and screaming for justice would be silent if joe were never an athlete and was just a 28 year old hard working man
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:53 pm to PointsInCase
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don't think a propensity to do something implies guilt
Prior acts are not admissible to prove the thing being asserted. So introducing his prior road rage to make it more likely than not that he was raging this time would be inadmissible.
Prior acts exceptions are very limited
Posted on 12/4/16 at 1:11 am to tgrbaitn08
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Maybe black people should stop committing 99% of violent crimes.
If that statistic is true, then why as a black person am I not tempted to pull a gun on a black dude at my window. I mean there is more black on black crime then black on white right? Statistics show that he should harm me right? Hmm sounds like a way to excuse being a trigger happy pussy.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 1:21 am to UptownnMike
WAit what?
I'm white as frick btw so maybe shite isnlost in translation
Although most here would probably consider me black and pawn me off if it came down to it
I'm white as frick btw so maybe shite isnlost in translation
Although most here would probably consider me black and pawn me off if it came down to it
Posted on 12/4/16 at 1:52 am to slackster
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Why?
I'm not sure why it has to be so black and white for everyone, for lack of a better phrase. It is plausible that Gasser reasonably feared for his life even though JM may not have been a physical threat in hindsight. Discussing that possibility doesn't make you a jock sniffer, related to JM, or racked with white guilt.
it's funny because the ones whining about white guilt, like dabigfella, are the ones who have been interjecting race into this from the first second.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 1:59 am to choupiquesushi
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Most of the guys defending McKnight on here and screaming for justice would be silent if joe were never an athlete and was just a 28 year old hard working man
If you had any balls you would point out the astounding hypocrisy of the Ronald Gasser Hardy Boys junior defense team here. Example: McKnight was a thug, he was a hothead who was in a fight in NFL practice once. Meanwhile: Gasser was in a violent road rage incident in the exact vicinity 10 years before, but let's not dredge up ancient history. The inability of one side here to admit to their laughable cognitive bias is incredible.
If anyone wants the OT in a nutshell, here you go.
Michael Brown relative: He was a 'gentle giant.' OT: Everyone rightfully discredits this once facts come out.
Ronald Gasser relative: He was a 'gentle giant.' OT: There's no way this guy with a history of road rage would do such a thing! Ten years ago was so long ago!
None of this is open and shut, and anyone claiming that either side has an iron clad argument is a joke.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 2:27 am
Posted on 12/4/16 at 2:08 am to choupiquesushi
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Most of the guys defending McKnight on here and screaming for justice would be silent if joe were never an athlete and was just a 28 year old hard working man
To be fair, if McKnight was just an average guy none of us would likely know about it.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 3:24 am to PointsInCase
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Aggressor is not a mutually exclusive descriptive term in a conflict.
It is when there are only 2 people involved
Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:47 am to LSUFanHouston
So it's cool to just shoot someone 3x's from inside your car during a road rage incident.
What have we become.. this is so freaking pathetic. Why not just drive away. How can you just get away with this. He bares responsibility for his actions.. Especially if he was in his damn car.. LEAVE..
My goodness.
How is this ever necessary or worth it.
What have we become.. this is so freaking pathetic. Why not just drive away. How can you just get away with this. He bares responsibility for his actions.. Especially if he was in his damn car.. LEAVE..
My goodness.
How is this ever necessary or worth it.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:05 am to biglego
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I know what 404B evidence and I'm sure, if there is enough evidence here to charge Glasser, there'll be a Prieur hearing and it'll be brought in by the state. But there has to be evidence of a crime here.
He might get charged with murder and a hate crime.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:05 am to beauchristopher
So you're just ranting without having read details, huh?
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:06 am to beauchristopher
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So it's cool to just shoot someone 3x's from inside your car during a road rage incident.
Based on the limited number of facts that have been released to date, had McKnight stayed in his vehicle at the intersection he would be alive today. Society created the tragic death of McKinight by way of all the recent carjacking in and around New Orleans.
If someone comes up to me at a red light and is acting in a manner that makes me believe harm is coming my way, they will see the end of a pistol barrel. Their next move will decide their fate in thisRticular scenario. The current laws stating ones vehicle is an extension of their home coupled with the SYG law protects me here.
I have no dog in this fight other than understanding that the three spent shell casings were found inside of Gasser's vehicle and he placed his firearm on the hood of the car and waited for the authorities to arrive.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:08 am to tgrbaitn08
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But as of right now there is no defendant and you're just playing pretend Law and Order?
Of course there is no defendant at this time.
If he is charged,there can only be one defendant, the other guy is pining for the fjords.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:10 am to PointsInCase
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I think your latent homosexuality and white denial has been exposed
Huh? My latent homosexuality and white denial, WTF?
You are projecting.
Do you remember your first blowjob, how did it taste?
Take a break from this thread, your SJW is getting the best of you.
Get back to your beatdown, tomorrow.
Until we meet again.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 6:16 am
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:05 am to beauchristopher
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o it's cool to just shoot someone 3x's from inside your car during a road rage incident.
Legal, but not cool.
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What have we become.. this is so freaking pathetic. Why not just drive away. How can you just get away with this. He bares responsibility for his actions.. Especially if he was in his damn car.. LEAVE..
At the scene, he couldn't drive away. Legally, he is in the right. Don't you understand this?
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My goodness.
How is this ever necessary or worth it.
To save his life. It's very easy to understand. Just leave your feels at the door, young man.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:17 am to Kcrad
Admittedly not been playing close attention
From what I can tell, a lot of this case will come down to whether deceased actually reached into the car and threatened the shooter.
Any information on why window was down in the first place?
From what I can tell, a lot of this case will come down to whether deceased actually reached into the car and threatened the shooter.
Any information on why window was down in the first place?
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:46 am to UptownnMike
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If that statistic is true, then why as a black person am I not tempted to pull a gun on a black dude at my window. I mean there is more black on black crime then black on white right? Statistics show that he should harm me right?
Did said black guy chase you down the road because he didn't like your driving then illegally block you in and THEN approach your vehicle?
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Hmm sounds like a way to excuse being a trigger happy pussy.
Or in your case justifying the aggressor who should have just drove to his destination instead being a hot headed jack arse and chase some one down to confront them.
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