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Was there any single thing that Hillary Clinton would like to do over?
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:15 pm
We know the whole e-mail scandal probably cost her a lot of votes, but she did plenty of other things that could have cost her the election.
Is there any single thing or strategy (other than the e-mail server) that if she could do it over, would have resulted in her winning?
For examples:
1.) If she hadn't made the little basket of deplorables comment.
2.) If she hadn't fainted in public, putting her health in question.
3.) If she hadn't legitimized BLM when police officers were getting killed by equating the two sides
4.) If she hadn't continuously emphasized, "a pathway to citizenship in the first 100 days" as the only detail she ever talked about with regard to her "comprehensive" immigration reform plan.
I think that #4 played a huge role in her loss. I think the Democrat strategy of carving out constituency groups in a divide and conquer strategy is unraveling, and their strategy of growing their hispanic voting bloc via illegal immigration has turned the blue collar working class against her, because they feel that their jobs are going to go to hispanics who will do them for less money. The Democrats now have to choose between the two, rather than rely on both groups voting for them in overwhelming numbers.
Hillary Clinton did not come out with a border enforcement strategy, other than there would be no wall, and people took that as her implicit approval of open borders.
Is there any single thing or strategy (other than the e-mail server) that if she could do it over, would have resulted in her winning?
For examples:
1.) If she hadn't made the little basket of deplorables comment.
2.) If she hadn't fainted in public, putting her health in question.
3.) If she hadn't legitimized BLM when police officers were getting killed by equating the two sides
4.) If she hadn't continuously emphasized, "a pathway to citizenship in the first 100 days" as the only detail she ever talked about with regard to her "comprehensive" immigration reform plan.
I think that #4 played a huge role in her loss. I think the Democrat strategy of carving out constituency groups in a divide and conquer strategy is unraveling, and their strategy of growing their hispanic voting bloc via illegal immigration has turned the blue collar working class against her, because they feel that their jobs are going to go to hispanics who will do them for less money. The Democrats now have to choose between the two, rather than rely on both groups voting for them in overwhelming numbers.
Hillary Clinton did not come out with a border enforcement strategy, other than there would be no wall, and people took that as her implicit approval of open borders.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:16 pm to Jax-Tiger
I would suggest, never buying into the illusion that she was ever a capable national level politician.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:16 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:
1.) If she hadn't made the little basket of deplorables comment.
This, and essentially taking white blue collar union voters for granted.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:17 pm to Jax-Tiger
If I were her, Benghazi would be my number one do over but I have a soul so...
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:17 pm to Jax-Tiger
failed to heed the counsel of WJC and opted to listen to the non-pragmatists
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:18 pm to Jax-Tiger
Shoulda held on to the pussy grabbing video a week longer.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:19 pm to Jax-Tiger
If we are limiting this to the campaign, separating the family from the Clinton Foundation back in 2015.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:22 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:Celebrating her November 8th victory following the final debate on Oct19th. Then taking the next 10 days off until Comey's letter was sent out just as she did in the period leading up to the debates.
Was there any single thing that Hillary Clinton would like to do over?
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:25 pm to Jax-Tiger
it's hard to single out any one thing
but if you could only choose 1, I bet she wishes she had "deplorables" back
at that point it was laughable to even the staunchest democrat every time she claimed the moral high ground with things like "when they go low, we go high" and it goes without saying that insulting voters was really fricking stupid. she wasn't winning any one fake poll enough to insult trump voters.
but if you could only choose 1, I bet she wishes she had "deplorables" back
at that point it was laughable to even the staunchest democrat every time she claimed the moral high ground with things like "when they go low, we go high" and it goes without saying that insulting voters was really fricking stupid. she wasn't winning any one fake poll enough to insult trump voters.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:25 pm to Jax-Tiger
The whole Hillary experience was so unbelievably flawed that you couldn't fix it with just one change.
The closest thing to that would probably be an attempt to tack toward the middle and salvage the rust belt states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, etc. But that would have lowered her turnout of other groups because her coalition in general is hostile toward middle class and lower class white America.
The closest thing to that would probably be an attempt to tack toward the middle and salvage the rust belt states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, etc. But that would have lowered her turnout of other groups because her coalition in general is hostile toward middle class and lower class white America.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:26 pm to Jax-Tiger
#1 will always be.....don't be a shitty human being
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:27 pm to Jax-Tiger
I should add: Tim Kaine. If she selects Bernie as VP, it wouldn't have been close.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:39 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:
Was there any single thing that Hillary Clinton would like to do over?
probably hundreds of things could have swung the election. It was a very close election. Flip a few votes in Michigan/Wisconsin/PA, and boom she wins it.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:43 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:
1.) If she hadn't made the little basket of deplorables comment.
This. I don't think we've had a presidential candidate in recent history refer to people that support their opponent as racist, xenophobic, homophobic, sexist, etc. We've seen surrogates, but not an actual candidate display enough unadulterated contempt and hate for a huge part of the population.
People noticed. Democrats brushed it off and tried to draw false equivalency with Trump's tweet of the day....but middle America heard that. The Trump campaign definitely heard it. It made painting Democrats as coastal elitists who are out of touch with the middle class easy for Trump's campaign.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:45 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:
We're going to put a lot of coal miners out of business!!
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:50 pm to Jax-Tiger
For me personally, with all that you listed, each and every single person I knew voting for her before all this stuff did not change their vote even after all this happened.
Not
A
Single
One.
Not
A
Single
One.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:51 pm to Jax-Tiger
She overvalued the Clinton brand and being a woman as the best reasons people should have to vote for her. While I think a small percentage of voters will be turned away by the idea of a woman president, it had far less to do with that than the way media and celebrities were sucking her dick and basically celebrating her elitism. Trump appealed to the blue-collar workers and went around the country bringing his message to people. She mostly presented her message to people with money. I was not so far away from where she held her fundraiser on Cape Cod, I think that was the $25,000/plate event.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 2:01 pm to Jax-Tiger
Just NOT being a stupid, self-centered, ignorant, entitled, haughty, willful, unpleasant, lying, greedy, unauthentic witch would have helped her tremendously.
Did I say dishonest...?
About half of the people of this country had her figured as above and voted Trump, many, as myself voted for him because he wasn't HER. MANY of the other half didn't like her for the reason above but voted for her cuz she wasn't Trump.
The other thing could have been NOT to attack the coal industry. In a close election, that was a horrible thing to do. Glad she did it tho.
Did I say dishonest...?
About half of the people of this country had her figured as above and voted Trump, many, as myself voted for him because he wasn't HER. MANY of the other half didn't like her for the reason above but voted for her cuz she wasn't Trump.
The other thing could have been NOT to attack the coal industry. In a close election, that was a horrible thing to do. Glad she did it tho.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 2:17 pm to Jax-Tiger
should have been aborted or run down someone's leg
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